Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

I read a post a couple of days ago that sounded plausible. The problem may be the phone not sleeping when in standby. This person examined the diagnostic log and determined that the phone is not going to sleep, basically. If I find this post I'll repost it here.

That reminded me of using the iOS 5.0 beta. During one release my phone became warm laying on my desk in standb as if it was in use the entire time. That was fixed (for me at least) during the beta.

Users here have posted descriptions similar to my description above. Maybe people should post their diagnostic logs?

rphunte42 wrote:

 

1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

 

You do miss your engineering days it seems lolll. Don't worry about my expectations, for I have none. I don't have, nor plan on having a smartphone anytime soon. I don't want a "little computer" in a phone form factor that can't even do excellent call quality. I have a real computer and that's enough. I no longer own a TV, and I haven't had cable or any such thing for a decade now. I'm never buying a blu-ray player. I'm never going back to social networking. I'm analyzing the possibility of going internet-less now and relying on hotspots for "just in time" access lollll. I might try the Nokia C1-01 because I can appreciate call quality engineering and low cost prepaid for casual use. Less is more.

Then why don't you just go buy your Luddite special phone and leave us alone.  You say you have no need of social networking, yet, here you are, doing just THAT.

What a shady comment, I guess I struck a nerve there. Reform Luddism is quite interesting, as is degrowth, and I'd rather be into that, value, consumer rights and challenging opinions than meaningless techno-babble, mainstream lifestyle and blind faith for an overrated product and technology i.e. your forte or so it seems. I can't see why you would try to polarize this debate as a have vs. have-not thing. I don't need to make myself clueless then convince myself I need a GPS and such - I'm entirely resilient to peer pressure and trends. You should know by now, I come here for you! Be thankful for me not leaving you alone, as everyone around you seems busy calling as you put it yourself. I have made friends here to the point one could qualify what I do as antisocial networking - you can join my network anytime. As an added benefit to others, my contribution in terms of support is beyond what you achieved. The "little computer" metaphor only goes so far and people, even Apple users, are not dumb to the point of not knowing that the device operates on standby. In any case that has no bearing on the value Apple should deliver to its loyal customers especially considering the marketing  etc. Bed time stories are not what people are looking for here - this device is mainstream and nobody is really fascinated anymore - they just want to use it, and a lot. Picking up where amazing left off is what they expect. They simply got less than amazing.

Now...This is an Apple support page....We are Apple users and we do not come here to advertise or see advertisements or try to publicise other brands....We already have  the phone and we are bringing our issues to the discussions hoping someone will come up with a solution before Apple does....

Battery on iPhone 4S is not miserable because of the hardware...It is cos of the software and it has been made clear by this 600 odd pages of discussion....We have seen iPhone 4 users complaining about bad battery once they updated it to 5 or 5.0.1....I have a 4S with me and I am annoyed too with the battery...Doesnt mean we should whine about it....

And for a long time, I have been a nokia user and its been crap, I havent been able to use each phone without a single issue, i stress hardware issue for more than 6 months....I have used nearly 8 nokia phones and few phones from Sony and I jumped to Apple which has been an absolute satisfaction....Even with the bad battery, I still feel I am top of the food chain....

Here is clarification on what Apple says is usage:

Viewing Usage Statistics

Awareness of how you use your iPhone and knowing how long your battery typically lasts can help you improve its battery life. You can view your iPhone usage statistics by tapping the Settings icon on the Home screen and choosing General > Usage. Under the “Time since last full charge” heading you’ll see two items:

• Usage: Amount of time iPhone has been awake and in use since the last full charge. The phone is awake when you’re on a call, using email, listening to music, browsing the web, or sending and receiving text messages, or during certain background tasks such as auto-checking email.
• Standby: Amount of time iPhone has been powered on since its last full charge, including the time the phone has been asleep.

Can read the full battery info here: http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html

rphunte42 wrote:

 

In the absence of clear definition of just what increments usage from Apple, we just have to guess.  However, there SHOULD be a significant difference between usage and standby times, so if your are essentially the same, you probably have a rogue process that didn't terminate, and is continuing to use the processor.  There are some issues with the cell phone tower switching it would seem, which I hope are addressed by IOS5.1. 

BTW, you paid way too much for your iPhone.

There are two types of problems:

1.Those with phantom usage

2.The second problem is where I fall, any form of usage just kills the battery especially anything to do with 3G.

When am not connected to wifi, the battery will die drastically. My standby times are pretty much ~1%hr or sometimes better, but when am on 3G, the phone is poor, really poor.

The 3G toggle in 5.1 will be useless, my carrier has only 3G.

Please find one single post I made saying folks are "imagining" this issue. You are completely clueless on about 99% of what you say here, stating all about Beta (and you never had access to ANY betas) Stating 80% of 50+ million iPhones are faulty, etc etc.  BTW for the last time, this forum is for folks looking for help/support not for complaining. Although there is lots of it here and thats ok, I am 100% confident that any companys support forums are designed for support and finding resolutions not complaining. But again you believe what you want.

Oh I have looked on ebay for your warranty replacement 4s, have you not listed it yet?

enx23 wrote:

 

@tutin12

 

please ignore the trolls (e.g. rphunte42, sbailey42, ricky_tang, etc.) here on the forum which love to tell everyone here that they imagine the issues with iPhone 4s and that they believe (believe like in religion) that iPhone 4s is the best phone ever!

 

Pavan Kulkarni wrote:

 

[...]Even with the bad battery, I still feel I am top of the food chain....

It is ironic that reducing caloric intake will yield a longer and healthier life, whereas status will not even result in a longer battery life lollll.

You must have had a diffferent version of the betas than enx23 because ALL iOS 5 from the inception from Steve Jobs mind til current 5.1 b3 is broken, always will be broken, and does not work for anyone ,, Wait I mean for only 20% of 50+ million iPhone 4s's.

Now on to a worthy topic (not enx23) If you happen to find the post mentioned please do post it for others here who are in fact looking for support and assistance.

ricky_tang wrote:

 

I read a post a couple of days ago that sounded plausible. The problem may be the phone not sleeping when in standby. This person examined the diagnostic log and determined that the phone is not going to sleep, basically. If I find this post I'll repost it here.

 

That reminded me of using the iOS 5.0 beta. During one release my phone became warm laying on my desk in standb as if it was in use the entire time. That was fixed (for me at least) during the beta.

 

Users here have posted descriptions similar to my description above. Maybe people should post their diagnostic logs?

I don't actually follow you guy's logic. What is the phone not supposed to do in standby that it should be doing when it's not? I mean aside from the screen being off? If during standby the phone polls the network, maintains a 3G connection and can remain paired with a bluetooth device and all, then I fail to see what extra benefit you would expect from it "really sleeping". I mean, as far as I know nobody ever spoke about the phone using a different power profile during standby and all. Finally, if you were able to identify a looping or cpu/power consuming process, could you kill it with a piece of software? It may be your only option is soft resetting the device everytime before putting it on standby for an extended period of time. Or am I wrong.

This is so funny you have these Apple so called guru's that seem to worship Appleand are willing to turn off everything on the phone to get 4 hours battery life just so they can say they have a IPhone 4s. Heck may as well just use one of the free phone everyone offers because when you disable all the I phone functions its no longer a smart phone it goes to being a dumb phone which is what it is now.  How many new versions of software does apple have to try to push down your throat that doesn't fix it until someone files suit to make them buy all these back. Apple if they cared would make a huge statement apologizing for all the problems they are causing and offer a buy back since its more than evident they have no engineers that can fix this problem and will never admit they may have purchase bad batteries or faulty chips, etc. Do not turn anything off just turn around and return them before your time runs out. Apple your complete ingnoring of this problem will be a black eye on you for many years to come.

On my 4s, the infrared sensor was always on, even with Siri turned off. After the restart, the sensor is off, as it should be, until I display the Spotlight Search page. After that, the infrared led bug is back.

IOS: 5.0.1 9A405

I have a 4 and I was told that if you double click on the home key you will see all the "open and running" programs you have in the background.  If you hold one until you get the   - (delete) and you delete them, it closes them from running in the background.  That seems to help some. 

On a side note I don't grasp the comments about what should or should not be posted - this is settled by the terms of use, and anyone can comment on someone's post and what not, and arguments can be made and unmade as the perpetual motion of the tides and comments made here are not exhibits at a trial or anything like that. Plus the forum is moderated. No volunteering is required in that respect. Everyone can read and figure out for himself. No one should take himself too seriously here. It is a bad habit of some Apple users to take things which seem to shed a bad light on Apple as something really personal and then the tone becomes quite condescending. Yet there is such a thing as poetic justice as this is what attracted me here lollll. But what happens here is quite trivial. Browsing the forums I have seen countless threads made by someone just to ask when the next update would come and things like that. The Apple experience is about control but they're quite relaxed in terms of managing the forums. Some can learn from their stance on that...

I fully restored my phone from iTunes yesterday and then erased all data and settings from the iPhone itself at 7:11PM (local time) when it was 100%. Today, at about 6:51PM, I had 75%. I have a record sheet in which I randomly check the time and percentage on lock screen and write it down because the usage/standby times are not available. So I have gone 1 full day with only loosing 25% battery life and I currently have 73% at 9:57PM (local time). Remember, I have no data at all on my phone. No contacts, music, apps. Nothing at all. So my phone is useless. I received one call and it lasted for less than a minute so it isn't a big deal. I received 3 texts but didn't reply to any. I'm actually loving the results I'm getting. Its not on airplane mode and I didn't put it during this so-called investigation. I am unfortunate that the time since last full charge times are not available or else I would've posted a screen shot. Good luck to everyone who are experiencing battery drainage on their iPhones.

And I think the restore as new phone won't work for some users who have problems on their iPhones. To fix, I believe the solution is to restore from iTunes then erase all data and settings from the iPhone itself, and that is by going to Settings > General > Restore > Erase All Data and Settings. This might fix the problems.