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Q: iPhone 4s Battery Life?

My iPhone 4s battery seems terrible! Almost equivalent to my 3GS and it's terrible battery life. When I got my iPhone yesterday and restored from backup I noticed nothing really changed with minimal usage and standby! Is this normal or should I consider setting it up as a new phone because maybe something is running in the background that's causing it to drop a percentage every few minutes under light usage? Input would be great!

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 7:14 AM

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  • by Jameson!,

    Jameson! Jameson! Jan 27, 2012 12:25 PM in response to AliAR
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    Jan 27, 2012 12:25 PM in response to AliAR

    As I've suggested a number of times in this thread..........

     

    I believe the problem is in how iOS5 was designed to manage the 4s dual antenna system and 3G data.   It is at least partially a firmware issue as evidenced by the fact that iOS5 causes battery problems on the 4s, the 4 and the 3Gs models.

     

    The concern is (or should be) whether or not APPLE can fix the battery drain problem, without screwing up reception on the 4s!

  • by AliAR,

    AliAR AliAR Jan 27, 2012 12:28 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay
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    Jan 27, 2012 12:28 PM in response to 1AppleADayNoWay

    Just to let you know, I have Twitter, Facebook, and Temple Run installed on my iPhone along with 675 songs and 2 videos. It is working great now, Usage 52 minutes, Standby 12 hours, Battery 79%.

     

    To what you wrote below:

    Criticize whoever you want to, but please don't criticize me. I'm not really in the mood to comment more on what you wrote because its 12:30AM. Good night.

    1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

     

    AliAR wrote:

     

    @1AppleADayNoWay

     

    I actually use my iPhone as a phone. Its not always on standby. One does not have to use a phone for 10 hours. I use it for texting, calling, emailing, and checking Twitter. I have an iPod Touch 4thG and its not that good. I like my iPhone regardless the issues it has and I'm a light user. Its like having 3 in one: music, phone, and camera. As long as I have the money, I can buy whatever I want to and you're not supposed to criticise other people. Keep your words to yourself.

    I think not - I have many words and I intend on expressing them fully, and I can criticize whomever and whatever I want and I really don't need your permission. Actually I couldn't care less how you use your phone, even though it seems to me you're one step away from framing it and putting it on the wall to admire it. Who cares it's your phone so it's all good. I mean sure with money one can build a ski resort in the desert, but that doesn't make it the Alps. I have to acknowledge though the Shuffle doesn't include a camera - but unfortunately the iPhone 4S doesn't include Photoshop, which would help as you seem inclined to spend more time watermarking your pics than actually taking them - but that's all right too. Usually professionals resort to digital watermarks and simply upload lower resolution pictures when they want to protect their content - but to each his own.

     

    So as you see, it's no big deal. The reason why I commented your delusional post about your battery life is simply because you were trying to convince a newbie seeking support and understanding, that maintaining 100% battery on 10 hours standby is the type of magic this device delivers (Icarus surely flew a couple of seconds high in the air before rapidly falling down to the ground - it was a short lived miracle) - especially that you knew full well that when you added your contacts and apps you had an immediate drain etc - that you'd show off to the rest of us is quite irrelevant, but when someone seeks support, it's time for the fairy tales and enthusiam to subside - and ultimately that was my point!

  • by AliAR,

    AliAR AliAR Jan 27, 2012 12:32 PM in response to Jameson!
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    Jan 27, 2012 12:32 PM in response to Jameson!

    I don't think Apple will be able to fix the battery problem on the iPhone 4S. More than 3 months passed and there's still no official reports by Apple stating the fix. If they fix the problem, they're gonna f u ck up something else on the 4S. Looks like we'll have to bear with this for about a year or so. Apple f u cked up this time.

    Jameson! wrote:

     

    As I've suggested a number of times in this thread..........

     

    I believe the problem is in how iOS5 was designed to manage the 4s dual antenna system and 3G data.   It is at least partially a firmware issue as evidenced by the fact that iOS5 causes battery problems on the 4s, the 4 and the 3Gs models.

     

    The concern is (or should be) whether or not APPLE can fix the battery drain problem, without screwing up reception on the 4s!

  • by vlhchi,

    vlhchi vlhchi Jan 27, 2012 12:35 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Jan 27, 2012 12:35 PM in response to Scarface.

    Mine has same issue with battery: it needs charged almost every day.

    It surprises me when lot of folks here have same problem but the same time, I feel better....

    The battery should have been tested in the factory with all of features turned ON.

    It does NOT make sense to me that we have to turn OFF some or all of them to save the power ??

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Jan 27, 2012 2:06 PM in response to AliAR
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    Jan 27, 2012 2:06 PM in response to AliAR

    AliAR wrote:

     

    [...]

    Criticize whoever you want to, but please don't criticize me. I'm not really in the mood to comment more on what you wrote because its 12:30AM. Good night.

    1AppleADayNoWay wrote:

     

    [less than critical acclaim for your specs]

    Don't worry, there's tomorrow!! lolll Just kidding. It wasn't personal to begin with. It's just I'll always reply word for word with extra anchovies, especially to authority based arguments.

     

    As far as Wozkniak's comments are concerned, well, there was some sarcasm in the way I used that. We didn't need him to figure out what's happening here, and in that respect he's just a layman and his opinion is just as good or bad as any. I found it was interesting to give a link to someone respected in this industry who's balanced and sane enough to see both sides of the fence, unlike many - I find it was a great read for the multilevel users  as they don't write here but they're here anyways lolll.

     

    Further I really laughed at his comments on the Steak House. For me, well there's no reason to drive and talk and reserve a table and all at the same time. If I like a place or want to go somewhere, I research it in advance on a desktop or someone gave me a quality business card from the place and the cardboard doesn't feel cheap, or someone recommended it and I trust that person's taste. If I want to improvize, I'll double park, drop my gf, and she can go and check if there's any free table, and if not well it's just faith. If I'm alone and I can't find a place in the city, I don't mind stopping by the curb and establishing contact with a stranger, even more so if she's a pretty woman, and asking about where I can find a place or just walking there - I like it like that and all that driving and gadgetry stationary usage can't be all too good for the waistline Q.E.D. For me this beats talking to a robot and being told every 10 seconds that there's such and such a mile left before my destination anytime. I'm feeling entirely vindicated to be like that, and it feels very human, and manly, to me. But hey that's me and everyone's free to talk to their robot - when it can connect to the server lollll.

  • by Love_JMA,

    Love_JMA Love_JMA Jan 27, 2012 3:11 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Jan 27, 2012 3:11 PM in response to Scarface.

    I have the iPhone 4s and I have noticed that if I have iMessage on and I go to bed with a 100% battery life by the time I wake up (8hrs later) its is COMPLETELY DEAD so dead I have to plug it in and wait 5 min for it to turn back on. But if I turn iMessage off then I'll wake up and only loose a little percentage. Is this pretty much the same thing everyone else is dealing with? I took to my mac store and this jerk said it was because I have too many apps (50 not including the standards) even though I close them before I go to sleep. He wouldnt even check it. My iPhone 3G couldn't even close apps and had a better battery life than my 4s. Hav any of you had any luck with taking it to apple?  Or any other suggestions besides iMessage? If this has been answered I didn't want to read through all 676 posts so I apologize and would appreciate it if you could link me to those posts.

     

    Thank you!

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Jan 27, 2012 3:37 PM in response to Love_JMA
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    Jan 27, 2012 3:37 PM in response to Love_JMA

    You can turn off wi-fi sync, that can cause issues with certain routers. Also there is a reset process that is getting lots of folks good result. Its posted below. I would start there and of course turn off any locations or notifications you dont need or want. Oh and leave it plugged in while you sleep, then its ready to go when you are awake and ready to use it. Wont hurt it to leave it plugged in.

     

    [Credit to Davidch]

    i recommend you try my process below with your iPod touch 4th generation. you mention upgrading to iOS 5. if you have not updated to 5.0.1, be sure to do that first.  then follow my process step by step and in order.

     

    1. Reset all settings (settings app-> general-> reset)

     

    2 a. Go through initial setup steps (lang, wifi, siri, enable location, etc) and choose setup as new phone (don't worry your apps, data, contacts, mail will still be there). Do NOT restore from iCloud or iTunes (It can copy back corrupt settings)

     

    2 b. If you do not get the complete new setup screen with language setup and setup as new phone or restore from iTune/iCloud backup, be sure to go back to #1 and reset all settings again (it should happen the second time)

     

    3. Turn off system location services timezone and iAd (settings -> location services -> system services)

     

    4. Fully discharge battery (until you get the spinning wheel and it shuts off)

     

    5. Fully recharge battery (overnight if possible)

     

    In my experience this improves the Standby battery drain issue significantly in most cases.  It reduces drain from 2-4% or more per hr to 0.5% or less. It has worked for many, many users now. If it does not work after a few try's you may have a real battery or hardware issue and should contact Apple.  Good Luck!

  • by 1AppleADayNoWay,

    1AppleADayNoWay 1AppleADayNoWay Jan 27, 2012 3:40 PM in response to Love_JMA
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    Jan 27, 2012 3:40 PM in response to Love_JMA

    Also, if you're using the FB app, that might prove to be a big hit on the battery... besides what sbailey4 suggested, you may also take a peek here for an assortment of tasty posts (unfortunately, not much of mine):

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3526981?start=0&tstart=0

     

    Good luck!

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Jan 27, 2012 5:34 PM in response to vlhchi
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    Jan 27, 2012 5:34 PM in response to vlhchi

    vlhchi wrote:

     

    Mine has same issue with battery: it needs charged almost every day.

    It surprises me when lot of folks here have same problem but the same time, I feel better....

    The battery should have been tested in the factory with all of features turned ON.

    It does NOT make sense to me that we have to turn OFF some or all of them to save the power ??

    Almost every day?  So, some days it doesn't need charging?  Does that have to do with where you are, or what you are doing on the phone?  When I plugged mine in this evening, it was at 65%, which is rather low, but I had some issues with a bad text file crashing a text reader, and had to hard reset.  I think the app was 'hung', for about 15 minutes.  The point is, that could have gone another day on the remaining charge, and still had 30% or so left.  Read reviews on the main competition to the 4S and see if you think your battery life is bad.

  • by rphunte42,

    rphunte42 rphunte42 Jan 27, 2012 5:38 PM in response to Love_JMA
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    Jan 27, 2012 5:38 PM in response to Love_JMA

    Love_JMA wrote:

     

    I have the iPhone 4s and I have noticed that if I have iMessage on and I go to bed with a 100% battery life by the time I wake up (8hrs later) its is COMPLETELY DEAD so dead I have to plug it in and wait 5 min for it to turn back on. But if I turn iMessage off then I'll wake up and only loose a little percentage. Is this pretty much the same thing everyone else is dealing with? I took to my mac store and this jerk said it was because I have too many apps (50 not including the standards) even though I close them before I go to sleep. He wouldnt even check it. My iPhone 3G couldn't even close apps and had a better battery life than my 4s. Hav any of you had any luck with taking it to apple?  Or any other suggestions besides iMessage? If this has been answered I didn't want to read through all 676 posts so I apologize and would appreciate it if you could link me to those posts.

     

    Thank you!

    WHY do people charge the battery, then go to sleep?  Plug it in, and unplug in the morning, and have all day to use the charge.  This seems pretty basic to me.

    BTW, the number of apps you have on your phone has NOTHING to do with battery life, unless some of them are the kind that really do run in the background, like mapping apps, and you forget about them.

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Jan 27, 2012 5:52 PM in response to AliAR
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    Jan 27, 2012 5:52 PM in response to AliAR

    You do realize he has not been at Apple since 1987 right? iPhone came out 20 years after he was gone. Just saying.

    AliAR wrote:

     

    Steve Wozniak, Apple's Co-Founder Says:

    Another gripe involves battery life. “With the iPhone, something happened with the new OS or the new phone, and it just started running through the battery so fast,” he says. “I’ve had a lot of issues with things I have to turn off just to save the battery life.”

     

    So there is in fact a battery life with the iPhone 4S. Its not the applications you install or any other thing and it's most probably a hardware problem.

     

    Italic text taken from:

                                  Even Woz Thinks the Android Bests the iPhone

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/14/even-woz-thinks-the-android-bes ts-the-iphone.html

    Thanks to 1AppleADayNoWay for the link.

  • by sbailey4,

    sbailey4 sbailey4 Jan 27, 2012 6:07 PM in response to Jameson!
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    Jan 27, 2012 6:07 PM in response to Jameson!

    Had to go find this post. After reading I wanted to test. I am myself most of the time in a wifi area. Some days 100%. So I decided today to turn off wifi and totally run on 3G to see if I had the same issue as you describe. Well I have not really seen much difference at all. I am a little off but nothing severe. Pretty much where I typically am by this time of day maybe 5% or less of remaining battery I typically have by now. Of course nothing concrete as I didnt measure with a stopwatch (Appleaday )  but pretty much typical day with phone calls, email,text. Even had bluetooth on most of  the day.  So I cant say that 3G is a battery hog for me either. Again I am on CDMA network so maybe thats why.

    Jameson! wrote:

     

    This mimics my experience right from Day One of the 4s release.   Being on wifi for most of my day, I see no battery drain issues on my phone.   As soon as I get away from wifi and am connected using 3G data, the battery begins to drop quickly.

     

    I've said it before and will say it again......  This is a problem with how iOS5 was designed to work with the new Dual Antenna system in the 4s.   The big question will be if APPLE can correct the battery drain problem without creating a bunch of other performance problems, like poor reception...........

  • by moe-4-me,

    moe-4-me moe-4-me Jan 27, 2012 11:06 PM in response to Scarface.
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    Jan 27, 2012 11:06 PM in response to Scarface.

    apple please i need a i operating system 5.1 to fix my iphone battery please faster

  • by moe-4-me,

    moe-4-me moe-4-me Jan 27, 2012 11:24 PM in response to moe-4-me
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    Jan 27, 2012 11:24 PM in response to moe-4-me

    operating system means (os)

  • by hrik,

    hrik hrik Jan 28, 2012 12:54 AM in response to moe-4-me
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    Jan 28, 2012 12:54 AM in response to moe-4-me

    Já tenho instalado no meu 4S o ios 5.1 beta 3 , a drenagem da bateria esta igual , desliguei o 3G, e acho que não mudou nada , a minha pergunta é a seguinte , o ios beta 3 que saiu para developers é exactamente igual ao que vai sair brevemente  para o geral dos utilizadores ? quando a apple libertar a actualizaçao do 5.1 beta 3 é igual a esta que libertaram para developers???  http://www.google.pt/imgres?q=ios+beta+3+3+g&um=1&hl=pt-PT&biw=1639&bih=748&tbm=isch&tbnid=8o_NpF2zvFPfyM:&imgrefurl=http://www.imore.com/2012/01/09/ios-51-beta-3-restores-3g-data-toggle-settings/&docid=DNkmutTAg3l82M&imgurl=http://cdn.imore.com/images/stories//2012/01/iOS_501b3_3GToggleRestore.jpg&w=600&h=557&ei=MrcjT_GDD5Df8QPt25DPBw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=278&vpy=193&dur=962&hovh=216&hovw=232&tx=168&ty=72&sig=115842761811317887028&page=1&tbnh=156&tbnw=168&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0

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