iPod Touch 3rd gen reboots: panic CRC ERR

My 14 year old daughter had an iPod Touch 3rd gen that, with less than a month to go on the warranty, the touchscreen stopped working. Took it in to the Apple store, where they tried to see if they could resuscitate it by upgrading iOS, reseting to factory defaults, and a couple other magic clicks they tried. All to no avail. They checked the liquid damage indicator, found no damage, and then agreed to replace the device. I walked out with a new (?) device and was happy.


A couple months later I overheard my daughter asking if she could have her mom's Touch. I asked why she wasn't using her Touch, and she told me that it has rebooted randomly since we got the replacement. Of course, I was incensed that she didn't say something sooner - like, before the warranty ran out. Knowing that the warrany had expired, I started to research the problem on Apple's forums and the Internet.


Most of the information I found seemed to indicate that certain versions of iOS seemed to incite these kinds of problems. So I went through several exercises to try upgrading, downgrading, restoring the device, DFU mode, etc. Still, the problems continued. I upgraded the device over the weeks and months, hoping to find the magic version that would stop this. I tried removing apps, not installing any apps at all, putting music on slowly instead of syncing large amounts of data, etc.


A day or two ago I installed iOS 5. It seemed like it was going to work fine, but still periodically it would crash - including during the upgrade process itself, during the restore after the upgrade, when running large apps, when running small apps, and even when not doing anything at all. In fact the reboots complicated the process such that I could no longer sync without an error, so I had to reinstall the OS again earlier today. I was at dinner tonight and looked over when something caught the corner of my eye - it had gone to the Apple boot screen all by itself, when it was simply sitting there not being used.


I found General -> About -> Diagnostics & Usage -> Diagnostic & Usage Data, and see eight files:

(4) files called 2011-10-15-xxxxxx.panic.plist (I assume xxxxxx is a time of day, since the latest one is from dinnertime)

(4) files called ResetCounter-2011-10-15-xxx (rest of file name is cut off, xxx is first three digits of above xxxxxx)


I opened them and they all look relatively similar (latest one shown):

panic.plist:

Incident Identifier: 5498CD62-1915-4CF6-AA29-68B264862600

CrashReporter Key:

1f8e6350d76b74f0edef75a88dbf683f7cf32490

Hardware Model: iPod3,1

Date/Time: 2011-10-15 20:42:29.359 -0400

OS Version: iPhone OS 5.0 (9A334)


CRC ERR!


ResetCounter:

Incident Identifier: 246DB43B-7BC1-454D-8835-FBB81C4DD63B

CrashReporter Key:

1f8e6350d76b74f0edef75a88dbf683f7cf32490

Reset count: 1

Boot failure count: 0

Boot faults:

Boot stage: 0

Boot app: 0



Now I'm no Apple genius, but CRC ERR to me means a memory problem (cyclic redundancy check, stored checksum of memory contents does not match calculated checksum of same). The fact that there is a file for each crash since I reinstalled iOS indicates to me that this device is panicking because of a memory problem.


I am generally happy with the Apple i* line - our family has an iPad, an iPad 2, an iPhone 3GS, an iPhone 4, 3 iPod 3rd Gens, and our daughter is on track to get an iPhone 4 for her birthday next month. What concerns me is that they have given me a refurbished device with a problem, and I am powerless to do anything about it? The flat rate repair cost for the device is $149, but I feel that they gave me a device that wasn't working to begin with.


Any advice on how to deal with Apple in a case like this? The device is, of course, not covered by warranty, and they want an unspecified amount of money for a single telephone incident, wherein I believe they will simply tell me/confirm that I have a hardware issue. I would like them to look in their records and see what the problem was with the original device they refurbished, because I suspect that they didn't find fault and simply repackaged it.


I am prepared to talk to them - I think I will go to the store, though, because there are scant few appointments available for someone to call me in the next week. I am even prepared to pay the money, if I thought I had a decent chance of getting some satisfaction in this. But after reading some other customers' experiences with AppleCare, I tend to believe that the tier-1 support people won't satisfy.


The device was easily $250 when I first bought it for her, and I feel somewhat cheated if they simply repackaged dead hardware. But it's my word against theirs at this point.


Again, simply looking for advice on how I might bring this to the attention of people who care and aren't just reading from a troubleshooting flowchart.


Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions, including if anyone knows of a resolution that I haven't tried?

iPod touch, iOS 5, Replacement unit (refurbished?)

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 9:02 PM

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Oct 30, 2011 9:42 AM in response to jdpatl

My problem is exactly the same, and I have not found a solution. I have a 3rd generation iPod Touch with 32 GB, recently upgraded to iOS 5. My iPod reboots randomly, regardless of what it's being used for, and sometimes even when it's not being used. My "crash reports" in Settings -> General -> About -> Diagnostics & Usage -> Diagnostic & Usage Data directory are very similar:


panic.plist:

SysInfoCrashReporterKey

e0ab646b87a44daa85ab165a087e2c90b04c1cae

bug_type

110

description

Incident Identifier: 915E60F0-790A-4ABE-B153-F371E6B497F0

CrashReporter Key: e0ab646b87a44daa85ab165a087e2c90b04c1cae

Hardware Model: iPod3,1

Date/Time: 2011-10-30 00:42:12.906 -0400

OS Version: iPhone OS 5.0 (9A334)

CRC ERR!

os_version

iPhone OS 5.0 (9A334)

system_ID


ResetCounter:

AutoSubmitted

SysInfoCrashReporterKey

e0ab646b87a44daa85ab165a087e2c90b04c1cae

bug_type

115

description

Incident Identifier: B95D297B-EF08-4C6E-A411-CCBAB2515A5A

CrashReporter Key: e0ab646b87a44daa85ab165a087e2c90b04c1cae

Date: 2011-10-30 00:42:10 -0400

Reset count: 1

Boot failure count: 0

Boot faults:

Boot stage: 0

Boot app: 0

displayName

Reset count

name

Reset count

os_version

iPhone OS 5.0 (9A334)

version

101


Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Nov 4, 2011 10:04 AM in response to Mulval

I made an appointment and visited the nearest Apple Store to see what can be done. The technician at Genius Bar connected my iPod Touch to a laptop with iTunes and performed a DFU (Device Firmware Upgrade) restore, to reset the firmware to default settings.


http://geekindisguise.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/how-to-put-ipod-touch-iphone-into -dfu-mode/


This is the only thing the technician said he can do. The next step would be for me to buy a replacement device. The technician wrote in my repair problem diagnosis, "If problem persists customer will return for a paid replacement."


The DFU restore wiped out all of my data from the iPod Touch: games, audio, video, photos.


Unfortunately, the problem of random crashes and reboots still persists. Now I'm deciding whether to pay for a replacement iPod Touch 3rd Generation 32 GB ($169 CAD), or spend more money and buy a new iPod Touch 4th Generation 32 GB ($299 CAD). Returning the old iPod Touch 3rd Generation will give me a 10% discount on the purchase of a new iPod Touch 4th Generation (for a total of about $270 CAD, plus applicable taxes).

Dec 17, 2011 5:06 PM in response to kinder771

My problem is similar, but not exactly the same. As I described in my previous posts in this thread, I have a 3rd generation iPod Touch with 32 GB, now with iOS 5.0.1. My iPod reboots randomly and unexpectedly, no matter how it's being used. Sometimes it even reboots while it's not being used. The iPod shuts down and then restarts immediately. Looking at the Diagnostic & Usage Data directory, one can see a panic.plist report and a ResetCounter report after each random reboot. I'm not aware of a fix for this problem, so getting another device appears to be the only solution -- that's what I was told by a Genius Bar technician at my local Apple Store. For now, I've decided to live with the random reboots, even though I've had as many as six per hour -- because I don't want to spend the money on a new device.

Dec 18, 2011 6:26 AM in response to Mulval

Well, I looked at new vs. used, the return replacement is half the price of a new one, and I can't see myself using the camera. So I plunked down $149 and got a replacement. Loaded it up with the same stuff I had on the broken one, and it's been running flawlessly for two months without a single reboot.


Definitely a hardware problem, I posit memory.


Good luck!

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