What about the situation of a member of the family plan who does not want to move to iCloud but has to keep the .Mac.com address? Can she keep the .Mac address and do nothing else = does that require her to use another email client [she's running SnowLoeopard] or what??? She doesn't want to upgrade to Lion right now and yet has to keep the .Mac address. thanks.
She can do that for now Victoria,
At the end of June 2012, she will need to cross-convert her mail to iCloud, But she still does not have to upgrade her hardware.
Mail will be accessible, as it is now, on iCloud even with her older OSX and hardware. Also she will be able to access her mac.com eMail on iCloud through a browser if need be.
But all of the Mobile Me facilities will be shutdown at the end of June 2012. After that, all these facilities will need to be acccessed through the WEB (or Mail.app) at the point of cross-conversion. Think of it as moving her mail data from the Mobile Me (.MAC) system to the iCloud system. Same mail program, different behind the scenes storage location.
Of course she will not be able to take advantage of the OSX based iCloud features except via the WEB. But again, Mail will operate as you would expect.
ps. I would suggest not waiting until the last minute, but maybe wait until March 2012 then converting to iCloud when life is a little more comfortable.
Finally, an answer that means something! She doesn't now use the MobileMe stuff so just wants to keep her Mail .Mac til she upgrades...and not feel pushed == tho I want to upgrade now or at least soon.
Is it possible for ME to upgrade to iCloud without messing her up? I'm the lead family member but from my reading that is not a role any more = everyone is on a free account on MM til June 2012 and if I upgrade it won't affect family member info. Right?
Now some of this is finally starting to make sense. From all this here is what I *think* I can do.
Convert to iCloud for email services.
Turn off all the other iCloud services as I do not want or need them. I just want to keep my computers and iDevices in sync and up to date manually without ant automatic intervention as to how someone else thinks I should keep my devices synced.
Maybe this is finally starting to make sense.
For the purposes of 'Data' each MobileMe ID is separate, but for the purposes of Accounting ($) the Master family member is the billing account and the control account.
Since iCloud is largely free, once any MobileMe account has its Data cross-converted (moved over) to iCloud, at that point it becomes independent.
Any portion of a MobileMe family account can cross-convert at will and it will not affect or force another family member into a bad situation.
Yes, you can do as you have stated.
In fact, you can activate or disable iCloud features at will, once you have activated iCloud.
There will be a preference panel. That panel has a listing for each iCloud feature. You can enable (check off) or disable any item as you wish.
iCloud is very stable btw.
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Hi again Andy,
I just read your original post after I answered your secondary question a few minutes ago.
Right now, the iTunes cloud download and App store download works without an iCloud account. Will this continue after June 2012?
Yes it will.
So the last thing is...
What happens to my email addresses after June 2012?
Your e-Mail address is the new account ID concerning all things Apple now. So, iTunes Store, iCloud, Apple Store etc.
So, nothing will happen to it.
However, if you want your existing online mail, you absolutely must cross-convert it from the .MAC/MobileMe system to the new and separate iCloud system before the end of June 2012.
And if you don't care about any current mail, but do want your actual e-Mail address to be used for purposes of e-Mail then you must open an iCloud account at some point in time, either before or after the end of June 2012.
Just a little confused again....I can and will convert MY MM to iCloud and that's fine. Our daughter doesn't want to so she can just keep her .mac account for now and that's true until the end of June next year. But as of that date, she MUST convert [even if only mail] to iCloud??? She does not need to use the other things iCloud offers but to keep her .Mac email address she has to move to iCloud == is that it???
In other words the .Mac email addresses are good to 6/31/11 but not after unless one uses iCloud? I'm just trying to help my daughter keep her address....Thanks again for all the very good help!
It looks like your daughter will need to do as I plan to do.
Convert the email account to iCloud, which will retain her .mac email account, then go through the preference pane and uncheck all the iCloud stuff she doesn't want.
Me, I don't want or need any of the cloud features so I just retain my .mac email address.
Most of it finally makes sense to me, I hope this helps you as well.
The only confusion I still have is the other three (3) family plan email addresses. Adam stated that the email address become your Apple ID, well, we only use one email address as an Apple ID to make purchases, we just use the other 3 as email addresses.
What conversion is necessary for email addresses that are used only as email, not to purchase?
The problem, however, is that my daughter can't upgrade to iCloud [doesn't want Lion = I may convince her yet but she's happy with SL and doesn't like techie things].
So, the two family members I am worrying about, one I can upgrade since he only uses his iPad and iPhone and doesnt' need to get into OSX really. But the daughter is resisting upgrading = so the Q still remains what happens to MM people with .mac or .me addresses who cannot or will not or should not upgrade to iCloud - before and after 6/31/12
Thanks for your thoughts.