Would love to know if anyone has found a client for iCloud. Migrated over today and wish I could migrate back. Transmit is as useless as the Finder for this new server structure. I'm not even sure what the initial path is now for iCloud.
Any help appreciated,
--Mark
It looks like you give "Apple a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license" while you are liable for any infringement. See under "License from You" here...
Would love to know if anyone has found a client for iCloud
you are stucked!
icloud is a push technology, you push your stuff up the cloud (not knowing where) and icloud push it to your devices.
icloud is apple's hook to get people into its ecosystem (as before).
it started with dot mac (everything was free) then mobiteme (you have to pay) now with icloud (you don't pay, but you need to read the fine print; you might had forfeited your right when you push your stuff up icloud)
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icloud is push technology, web site serving is pull technology...
push ≠ pull
Yeah, I'm with you Hac. (Good to still see you in here, btw) Thanks for that new little utility for switching Domains too. Fortunately I was able to reconnect using the Connect to Server in the Finder Go menu. It even used the same old "idisk.mac.com/username/" which surprised me.
It takes a lot for Apple to disappoint me but Lion and iCloud have done it a few times now!
Thanks again---Mark
....Hence the reason for switching to iCloud. I didn't grasp at the time the difference in the servers. I get it now though; Apple is done with hosting from a regular server platform and uses remote space for simple sharing between devices.
Hi Roddy,
Your work in these forums has been remarkable and thank you for all your efforts to help all of us here.
I don't take a conspiratorial view of iCloud or Apple but it's clear that the server's existence is now predicated on the coalescense of Apple devices and is therefore just a loss-leader (for now) marketing tool. I do benefit from the handshaking of these devices and it's also kinda fun. As someone who, like yourself, is accustomed to other server space, I won't really miss the iDisk; so far it seems that Finder handles files up and down as before, even after migrating to iCloud, but I'm not sure if the current folder structure will stay the same once iDisk goes away. My limited experience with iCloud indicates that movement of files is application specific and will not have the flexibility of file movement/transferral like the iDisk had. On the other hand, I have to admit that acessing files on iDisk from my iPhone was cumbersome and required a third party client, like OneDisk or WebNav for up or downloading of files from this device. So maybe iCloud will simply streamline things I was previously doing, without the clumsiness.
Roddy wrote:
It looks like you give "Apple a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license" while you are liable for any infringement.
That is extremely standard wording which you will find on any sharing site.
If you do not agree to the license, the practical/legal consequence is that you are not giving Apple permission to copy and store files you own, make copies for mirror servers, your other devices, backup, etc. using their computers and servers, which may be located in other countries.
In other words, without you giving Apple that license, the iCloud service itself could not operate (legally).
You lose no rights. The license is not exclusive, and nowhere does it say that file ownership/copyright is transferred to them. You still own the files.
MobileMe does a lot of useful stuff but doesn't really do any of them very well and I'm surprised that it took Apple so long to dump it.
A lot of people seem to think that iCloud is a replacement for MobileMe. Clouds are nothing new. A while back, I signed up for Amazon's version just to see what it was and what it would do. Of more interest to me was what it was not and what it wouldn't do.
I don't really have much interest in it and Lion is the first OS update that I haven't rushed to install.
There's been a lot of interest in the security issues with cloud storage and we should all consider this before committing our "top secret" data to it.
As with anything else that's "new", its up to each individual to decide on its worth and what the risks are. It does give the hackers a new challenge and, while they are focusing on cracking iCloud, their attention will be diverted away from stealing all my "classified" files.
Thanks OT,
I've glanced over that link previously but hadn't grasped until today that iDisk as we have always viewed it, folder structure-wise in Finder, is going away completely. I had just assumed iCloud was an enhanced version of iDisk, but it's not. Files in iCloud apparently are only accessible through a device application and as Cyclosaurus pointed out, nobody knows where the files are.
I'll miss the little iDisk, and I'm not crazy about the inability to see my files from a Webdav client. What would be the reason for this? Why take away the ability to see the folder heirarchy on the server? Makes no sense to me, unless it really is a savings to Apple on bandwidth, and hence the reason it's free, at least for now.
Nice job on the tutorials, btw OT. 😉
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With an ftp hosting service and an ftp client like Transmit or Cyberduck you can see your file on the server in Finder like windows and drag files around like you could on the iDisk, more so with Transmit than Cyberduck.
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Yes. I use Transmit and host with GoDaddy. 1&1 is also a good server, very fast.
You are making a good point, as did Roddy earlier about how they kept the iDisk alive for this long. For those of us who discovered website building, remote servers, ftp, and hosting remote files in general with the introduction of iWeb in 06, iDisk must have gained some sentimental value, being so easily reached with Finder.
Life goes on!
Thank you for confirming my initial suspicion on the issue. To run a one-man business, it looks like nothing can compare to using ForkLift to synchronize files / folders between Mac computers and the iPhone, which is what I've been doing for the past year.
iDisk is part of MobileMe and will be discontinued July, 2012.
Seems iCloud won't even be visible in Finder. Data will just be somewhere "in the clouds".
This may be of some interest to you: Life After MobileMe, particularly Roger Wilmut's two websites.
OT
It has been 2.5 months since the last post. Has anyone figured a way to synchronize files between the Mac and the iCloud using something like ForkLift?
Webdav client for iCloud? Forget Transmit.
