11 Replies Latest reply: May 17, 2012 6:29 PM by Plm78
cpoagsc Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

I have the following setup which worked beautifully before iCloud came along:

- a "master server" Mac Mini through which I make all iTunes purchases for the entire family under a single AppleID.  The following devices sync with this computer:

  - Dad's iPhone

  - Dad's iPad

  - Mom's iPhone

  - Mom's iPad

- a "satelite" iMac for the children to which I copy any apps, movies, and music they want.  The following devices sync with this computer:

  - Son's iPod Touch

  - Daughter's iPod Touch

 

I want to share:

- App purchases

- Music purchases

- Movie purchases

- Photos

- Master family contacts/address book

- Family calendars

 

I need to separate:

- iMessage accounts for each device

- FaceTime accounts for each devices

 

I resorted to using Google calendars some time ago because Google did a much better job of keeping separate calendars for each family member and controlling who could update what, so I don't attempt to sync calendars through iCloud. I set up each device to use the same AppleID (as they always have) for both iTunes and iCloud.  iTunes sharing works great (except that I have to give my wife my password and enter my password for my children whenever they want to make purchases).  We just manage the sync settings for each device manually (syncing specific playlists, etc. to each one).

 

I set up each device to use it's owner's e-mail address for messages by fiddling with the settings for "Messages" in the Settings app.  This did a great job of sending messages to the correct device (except that my wife and I own two devices each, so incoming messages may go to both devices, which isn't all bad).

 

Everything seems to be working great except for one thing.  Siri!  If I tell Siri who I am, then Siri changes it's behavior on my wife's iPhone and starts calling her by my name.  If she tells Siri who she is, then Siri changes it's behavior on my iPhone and starts calling me by her name.  Why are Siri settings sync'd between devices!?  Is Siri going to be the straw that forces me to maintain separate AppleID's!?  Will that force me to start paying double for iTunes purchases?  Will it mean that we can no longer share our contacts/address book among the entire family?


iOS Devices running iOS 5
  • videoexpert1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    cpoagsc wrote:

     

     

    Everything seems to be working great except for one thing.  Siri!  If I tell Siri who I am, then Siri changes it's behavior on my wife's iPhone and starts calling her by my name.  If she tells Siri who she is, then Siri changes it's behavior on my iPhone and starts calling me by her name.  Why are Siri settings sync'd between devices!?  Is Siri going to be the straw that forces me to maintain separate AppleID's!?  Will that force me to start paying double for iTunes purchases?  Will it mean that we can no longer share our contacts/address book among the entire family?

    I have the same problem with Siri. You will not have to pay dobble for puchases if you create "two iCloud accounts" and still use the "same AppleId for purchases". Apple allows you to use a diffrent AppleId for puchases regaurdless what your iCloud Id might be.

  • geosak Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

    Icloud is different than iTunes.  The same iTunes account can be used across multiple devices.  I'm having the same issue with Siri and the "my contact info" on my 2 IP4's.  I use one iCloud to sync calenders and contacts for my wife and I.  Icloud seems to be syncing all devices as one.  My ipad2 does the same.  Im sure its a glitch that wasnt found in testing in the labs; how many families are in the lab with many combinations of devices.  Its funny when Siri calls me by my wifes name.

  • jpzla Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Same problem.  I've tried two separate Apple IDs for iCloud and the problem persists.  When my wife's 4S is on a separate Apple ID for iCloud she still has my iCloud account under Mail, Contacts and we use the same Apple ID for iTunes.

  • matthewfromsouth jordan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I've looked everywhere for answers to this problem and have found nothing...any updates to the op?

  • jpzla Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The only thing that I found to work is to have the second phone stop syncing contacts via iCloud. 

  • gwagn Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Apple has to find a way to reconcile this. Its very irritating.

     

    On the same note, My wife and I both have iphones on the same icloud account and same apple ID. Everything syncs up so nicely, and we also get all the benefits of icloud but have the same problem with siri not being able to distinguish between my contact info and hers. The other thing that doesnt work because we are on the same apple ID is iMessage. I have an ipad and an iphone and it works great, but if i try to iMessage my wife it thinks that it is me messaging myself and freaks out. So they NEED to fix iMessage and Siri to DISTINGUISH BETWEEN CONTACTS.

  • Plm78 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am having the same problem with Siri.  I am trying to use a non icloud contact for one and will see if that works. You can fix Imessage by creating a contact for each device with a unique email address. Then tell iMessage to listen on the appropriate email for each device. This also works for FaceTime which has the same problem as iMessage.

  • JP 714 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I agree.  Apple needs to somehow rethink their Contacts approach.  People do need to have a shared centralized address book while allowing for device specific relationships.  Join me in directing comments at Apple about this at http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

  • Plm78 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    If you use contacts from different address books Siri works.

  • gwagn Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    That is true, and that is what I have been doing. But, it seems like wew shouldn't have to do that. The beauty of iCloud is that everything can be synced up. And if you use two different address books. That is no longer the case with contacts (if I add a contact it will not show up on my wife's phone). I know that this is minor, but apple prides themselves on the fact that with iCloud everything "just works" and it seems like they should be able to deliver on that. Thank you JP 714 for encouraging us to contact apple. I think that if enough people start talking they will fix it.

  • Plm78 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I agree, I submitted a request. I was just updating my previous solution so people knew the workaround.