Q: How can I turn off iCloud completely?

natteaap wrote:

 

Correct.

Which device do you suggest using to access the internet when the internet is not available?

 

Well Mr CA,

that is exactly the problem I have with Match. I want to use my MBP with my music on my external drive without the internet.

Mr natteaap,

You want to use iTunes Match without the internet?

Chris CA wrote:

 

Mr natteaap,

You want to use iTunes Match without the internet?

Hello Chris,

no I don't want to use iTunes Match without an internet connection. That would be silly, wouldn't it. So on my mobile devices I know I'm bound on a wifi connection to play my music. That makes perfect sense.

I want to use the normal iTunes on my Mac without an internet connection. The same library that I used on my external drive, where all my music is located and that I used for some time before Match. The same library that I connected with the cloud through match because I did not read that once you connect it, you lose the connection to your previous offline library. I think that this is no small matter and that apple should have warned me about it. Or maybe it did warn me and I didn't take the time to read it, in that case the idiot money (25€) is absolutely valid and the shame is on me.

I thought it was some sort of cloud sync. You let iTunes see what's in your library and it syncs it with their music in the cloud and the songs that are not in the cloud are uploaded. And after that, if you connect to the cloud, you play music stored in the cloud and if you are offline, you play music from your drive. That was what I believed it would be. It is off course not entirely apple's fault, that I didn't do an extensive search on the internet to see if the product answered to what I thought it would be.

Csound1 wrote:

 

Download your music to your Mac, then sign out of Match

Hi,

thanks for your answer. I thought of that too (it is, after all, the obvious choice ) but would that not give me two libraries?

I have 4 songs that I've just bought two days ago from iTunes (and dare I say it? the last 4 songs I ever buy through iTunes) the rest is my cd collection that I digitalised over the years. So all the music is in folders on my external drive. It was neatly organised in my library (it still is).

So actually the only thing I really want to do is to "reconnect" my library to my music on my external drive. And then I can disconnect the cloud. Is that possible or is the only way to download everything and have two libraries?

cheers

natteaap wrote:

 

Csound1 wrote:

 

Download your music to your Mac, then sign out of Match

Hi,

 

thanks for your answer. I thought of that too (it is, after all, the obvious choice ) but would that not give me two libraries?

No

natteaap wrote:

So on my mobile devices I know I'm bound on a wifi connection to play my music.

Except you aren't. You can download the music to your device using iTunes Match.

-> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5637

Also, you can stream them over cellular or wifi.

"

• By default, when you add an iOS device to iTunes Match, the option to download over a cellular network isn't enabled1. To enable downloading over a cellular network for iTunes Match, choose Settings > iTunes & App Stores > Use Cellular Data > On."

you are wrong, dead wrong. icloud enables ITSELF

No it does not, do a little research please.

kennethpm wrote:

 

you are wrong, dead wrong. icloud enables ITSELF

except it doesn't.

Ok, thanks for your answer.

I downloaded my entire collection again and indeed it didn't give me two libraries.

Funny thing though. A man has music, puts it in a player, uploads the music and now is only able to play his music online. So in order to listen to his own music offline, he has to download it again. I find that ... Well, never mind, let's not use that language :)

I can only guess what would happen if my subscription expires. Go to the proces again, i reckon.

Anyway, thanks for helping me out guys.

Cheers

If you make the choice to only keep your music in the cloud, as opposed to keeping a local copy additionally  I would suggest that the process was not thought through from the beginning.

Keep a backup of important stuff.

Hi,

I'm not sure that you respond to my comment. But if you do, I must admit that you are right. I didn't think things through. I expected a sync instead of an absorption. That's my fault. now, after all, reading your comment about "keeping a local copy" I guess that there must've been an option to sync and keep everything local? I missed that one. Again, my fault.

I don't understand the comment about the backup in this case, though. How could any backup (which I do every day in timemachine) make this proces any differently? sync library - swish - done, library still in the same place, songs still in the same place, offline connection to these songs missing. No backup could help me with that, because everything is still there, itunes just doens't make an offline connection.

But, problem solved, I downloaded my entire collection again and now everything is working.

thanks again.

cheers

Frankly, I am flabbergasted that Apple can erase data off my computer, files that belong to me, and tell me if I want them back I must turn their service back on.   And now, if you want your appointments and contacts on your ipad as well, you can no longer sync them with a USB cable.  The only way to get your calendar, reminders, contacts and safari bookmarks on to your ipad is to use icloud.   What?  So, once more, I tried icloud and it is once more threatening my files if I turn it off.  Excuse me?

Oh, and I did this whole thing with an Apple advisor on chat...

Now I am looking for non apple calendars and contacts apps that will run on both the ipad and the mac pro.  There has to be a better way.   At bare minimum, it should ask if you are leaving icloud would you like your files restored....

Don

Toasterdon wrote:

 

Frankly, I am flabbergasted that Apple can erase data off my computer, files that belong to me, and tell me if I want them back I must turn their service back on.  

You elected to store your files on iCloud instead of your computer, at any time you could have made a backup copy if you wanted to keep a copy on your computer.

The only way to get your calendar, reminders, contacts and safari bookmarks on to your ipad is to use icloud

There are many alternatives to iCloud, use one of them instead.

So, once more, I tried icloud and it is once more threatening my files if I turn it off.  Excuse me?

We already covered this bit, back them up, turn iCloud off, restore them.

Actually, you've no conception of what I have elected...

1. I have backups, thanks.  Going to use them shortly.

2. According to Apple the only way to sync a mac pro's calender to an ipad is to use iCloud.  Do you know of something they don't?

3. Actually no, you haven't covered it, you've simply begged the question as to whether anyone would want to DO that.  Oh, and on the iPad it allowed me to keep my own databases I created!  Isn't that nice?   Seems so basic to me.  But over here on the mac pro, it's going to wipe out my data for daring to turn of icloud.   I'm sorry, but that *****.  See point number 1. 

Does anyone know of a 3rd party cal. and contacts program that will sync the mac pro to the ipad?  I haven't been able to find one.

thx.  dc

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Does anyone know of a 3rd party cal. and contacts program that will sync the mac pro to the ipad?  I haven't been able to find one.

I use google calendar, it sync's nicely with my ical on mac and ipad.

After the fiasco with pages in Mavericks, I started google docs. Works like a charm.

In fact, I use more and more google products. It works like a charm.

Btw, weird forum tech here. Each time it asks me to sign in (which is logical) but then it doesn't direct me back to the discussion but to a front menu to ask e question. But ok, that's another discussion entirely.