Q: Iphone 4s Takes Pictures Upside-Down???

philzgr8 wrote:

 

You mfarqwa, are an unqualified idiot! I did not see josemca force you to reply and the fact that you did says more about your blind acceptance of whatever Apple is happy to dish up than anything else. You and people like you are the reason why Apple and Microsoft are both completely happy to continue providing beta grade offerings in the guise of merchantable product. I am personally tired of paying for the priviledge of being the beta tester for companies who are too lazy and too money hungry to give two hoots about their customers.

O...M...F....G....Facepalm!!

Actually... that deserves 2 facepalms...

Read the whole thread next time and try to follow along like the rest of us.

But of course! Totally expected inconsequential response by someone who clearly has not read or at least has not comprehended the thread at all. As I said earlier, if you have nothing intelligent to add it's probably better if you add nothing!

Seriously Phil, facepalms aside, step back, take a deep breath, come back to the computer, maybe re-read the thread, cause you have absolutely got me confused with somebody else!!

Seriously now!! You are looking ridiculous!! Please re-read, at least just my posts before you reply to this post...

Wow... just WOW!

josemca wrote:

 

Maybe I did read it and you don't know. And maybe lots of people don't read the full thread and the more times the feedback link appears, the more people complains about and the sooner Apple works on it.

If your intention for posting the link was for the benefit of the ppl that don't read the full thread first, then REPLY to the Original Poster, NOT TO ME! You replying to me means you were talking to ME.  I already posted that link, which, you would have known if you read the whole thread... So yes, I do know that you didn't read it.

Comprehend?

Dear mfarqwa,

I've been reading the entire thread for several days, but I do not memorize who writes every single message. So you absolutely don't know if I've read it.

I did reply to you beacuse your message was the last one in that moment and it was a quick reply. But don't worry, now I've replied to the original poster...

Regards.

OK mfarqwa, it seems I did in fact confuse you with someone else and for that I apologise but I do not apologise for taking you to task on attacking josemca. Why would you waste bandwidth just because he/she reposted something that was already posted? It's not as if it's doing any harm to emphasise the need to take the issue to its source is it?

philzgr8 wrote:

 

OK mfarqwa, it seems I did in fact confuse you with someone else and for that I apologise

Apology accepted. Water under the bridge.

The front camera has a very bad quality already, and really was just added for video chatting. If you really want to use that VGA thing, you should get an app the can edit pictures by flipping them so they comeout right in photo stream (there's gotta be an app like that somewhere on the app store)

Better yet, check out the two day gathering of professional photographers who are passionate enough about the iPhone 4S to put together a seminar on iPhoneography.

http://www.creativelive.com/courses/iphoneography-jack-hollingsworth

If you miss the free live streaming you can buy the two day seminar videos in HD video or Lo res.

I watched as much of day 1 as I could take the time to do so, and was so impressed by what I learned, that I bought the series for download.

Your mileage may vary

Hi, several photos taken with iphone 4s, emailed fine to me and uploaded to Craiglist are not properly oriented, I tried different rotations with iPhoto before uploading but to no avail. Thx for helping!

We created a free app, SnapBot, that solves this problem:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/snapbot/id387161270?mt=8

Hope that helps some of you!

Is that for Videos as well, or only Pictures?

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No matter which of four possible sides the iPhone 4S Home Button is held when you take a still picture or a video file, you see it on the view screen right side up before, during and after the picture or video is taken.

The hardware saves the jpg or the mov file in a coordinate system based on the sensor, not based on the world outside the camera, and also saves a single digit number in the associated metadata for the image file that image viewing software ( on your computer) uses to perform a large matrix multiplication to rotate the image, if needed, into right side up in the real world coordinate system.

Because this computation effort is beyond that available in large Canon or Nikon cameras, or an Apple iPhone 4S it is done on your computer when you use some image software by Apple or Adobe. The math all takes place when you open the file. If you perform a "Save" or a "Save As" operation the rotated image is saved and you never even know it has taken place. ( Unless you were aware of EXIF image rotation metadata)

Suppose you send you jpg or your mov file from your iPhone to someone by email? Or send the file to any number of commonly used destinations. The rotation from the camera sensor coordinate system to the real world coordinate system has not happened. 

A picture taken with your iPhone 4S wiill be seen by the recipient ( if they have EXIF ignorant software to view the image) as being right side up, upside down, or sideways, depending on the four possible locations of the Home Button.

There is no choice of sensor coordinates that satisfies all four possible sensor orientations. There is enough memory and computational resources to show the image right side up in the view finder, both jpg still images, and mov video images, but not enough to manipulate the whole file when it is being saved in the camera. Perhaps some years from now there will be so much computation power in the camera that on camera image rotation will be possible, but not in the near term.

AdjuvantJohn wrote:

 

The hardware saves the jpg or the mov file in a coordinate system based on the sensor, not based on the world outside the camera, and also saves a single digit number in the associated metadata for the image file that image viewing software ( on your computer) uses to perform a large matrix multiplication to rotate the image, if needed, into right side up in the real world coordinate system.

 

Because this computation effort is beyond that available in large Canon or Nikon cameras, or an Apple iPhone 4S it is done on your computer when you use some image software by Apple or Adobe. The math all takes place when you open the file. If you perform a "Save" or a "Save As" operation the rotated image is saved and you never even know it has taken place. ( Unless you were aware of EXIF image rotation metadata)

 

I have to tell you that you are wrong. Imaging software rotate left or right photos but never the ones that are captured upside down. This is because you normally don' take upside down photos or videos unless you INTENT to do so. If you don't believe my words, go ahead and try it... use any camera you like...

On the othet hand, apple advertises the brand new iPhone 4S in TV taking picture and videos with the volume button up as a shutter release button - this results to all images and videos captured upside down... HUGE MISTAKE!!!

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There is no choice of sensor coordinates that satisfies all four possible sensor orientations. There is enough memory and computational resources to show the image right side up in the view finder, both jpg still images, and mov video images, but not enough to manipulate the whole file when it is being saved in the camera. Perhaps some years from now there will be so much computation power in the camera that on camera image rotation will be possible, but not in the near term.

...and the most preposterous post goes to...?! Yeah I'm not even bothering replying in details either!

And in any case if taking photos with such a pricey product and just simply posting a photo

on Craigslist ends up as a mess then we have a big problem!