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I want to access iCloud with POP3 protocol, NOT IMAP

2633 Views 13 Replies Latest reply: Dec 28, 2011 2:47 PM by kenneyc RSS
Lessley P. Silberberg Calculating status...
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Oct 25, 2011 6:49 AM

I want my mail and contacts stored LOCALLY, not on your server. I do NOT want to use IMAP protocol for my iCloud account, I want to use POP3. I have paid for my email account for over 10 years, and still list it at "mac.com". If I cannot do this I will fianlly have to DUMP any connection with Apple-based email. What a betrayal! Who decided FOR me that I want IMAP. I want POP3.

  • varjak paw Level 10 Level 10 (167,185 points)

    You're not communicating with Apple when you post here. We're all just fellow users, so it's not "our" server. If you want to comment to Apple, use their feedback pages:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback

     

    POP would seem to me to be rather defeating the entire purpose of iCloud which is to allow content synching among multiple devices, so I doubt that POP will ever be available in iCloud. If POP is critical to you, then you'll probably need to move to some other email service.

     

    Regards.

  • varjak paw Level 10 Level 10 (167,185 points)

    It's almost certainly not a "policy" but rather than iCloud just does not include POP. The email server has to include POP technology, and if it doesn't, there's no way for a user to add it. So there's almost certainly no way to "subvert" it.

  • varjak paw Level 10 Level 10 (167,185 points)

    It's not a "policy" in the sense that the technology is there to do POP and Apple just has it blocked. Apple apparently, for reasons that make sense to me given the intent of iCloud, chose not to include POP when building the new iCloud system (which is a completely different system than was MobileMe). Hence there's again almost no way to "subvert" things; POP support almost certainly just isn't there.

     

    MobileMe will continue until June 30, 2012, so you have some time to decide what you wish to do and to notify your clients if you decide to change services. You can also cancel your MobileMe service, if you wish to change services now, and receive a prorated refund for the unused portion of your paid subscription.

     

    Nothing more can be said, I fear.

  • varjak paw Level 10 Level 10 (167,185 points)

    It IS a policy in the sense that all one has to do is enable the protocol on the mail server.

     

    Not if the procotol isn't built into the server software they can't. I very much doubt that iCloud is running in any standard software (though I can't say with any certainty), so they probably have no POP code in the system that they could just "enable".

     

    Anyway, I have no interest in getting into a debate on the issue. POP is not an announced feature of iCloud. You have the resource via which you can submit comments to Apple if you wish. I very much doubt that iCloud, given Apple's stated intent for it, will ever feature POP email accounts, but we as users have no way of knowing what Apple might do in the future. You can decide what to do from here based on what suits your needs.

     

    'nuff said.

    iMac, Mac OS X (10.7), Core i7 Radeon 4850 8GB
  • Jaeden in RR Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Man, people sure jump to all kinds of assumptions about what is or what isn't supported.  If you won't at least contact them and ask, you can try to use the same method that was used for MobileMe: Set up the Email manually and choose pop for the protocol.

     

    For every person that decides to not feedback, that takes opportunity away from customers who have that want the change.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,360 points)

    Lessley P. Silberberg wrote:

     

    I want my mail and contacts stored LOCALLY, not on your server. I do NOT want to use IMAP protocol for my iCloud account, I want to use POP3. I have paid for my email account for over 10 years, and still list it at "mac.com". If I cannot do this I will fianlly have to DUMP any connection with Apple-based email. What a betrayal! Who decided FOR me that I want IMAP. I want POP3.

     

    On each of your clients make local folders for the storage of items that you wish to keep on the individual client, that will remove them from the server.

  • varjak paw Level 10 Level 10 (167,185 points)

      If you won't at least contact them and ask, you can try to use the same method that was used for MobileMe: Set up the Email manually and choose pop for the protocol.

     

    POP is not allowed as an option for iCloud email in the Mail settings. iCloud is a specific account type in Mail, and if you try to use the POP account type, there is no incoming mail server for iCloud for POP, not that I can find anywhere, in any case; only IMAP. So a manual setup does not appear to be possible. Again, it does not appear that iCloud has any POP capabilities.

     

    Regards.

    iMac, Mac OS X (10.7), Core i7 Radeon 4850 8GB
  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,360 points)

    Jaeden in RR wrote:

     

    Man, people sure jump to all kinds of assumptions about what is or what isn't supported.  If you won't at least contact them and ask, you can try to use the same method that was used for MobileMe: Set up the Email manually and choose pop for the protocol.

     

    For every person that decides to not feedback, that takes opportunity away from customers who have that want the change.

    And you have tried this?

  • Jaeden in RR Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Yeah, MobileMe was the same way.  You had to do the manual setup for it and put in the specific servers manually.  The MM servers were pop.me.com and smtp.me.com respectively if I am remembering correctly, so I would try pop.icloud.com and see if it works.

     

    And no I have not tried this.  I don't use Outlook and am just providing best memory assistance.  I personally prefer IMAP as POP is pretty terrible imo.  Part of the appeal for me in regards to IMAP is that it keeps everything the same so I can look at my iCloud.com and any other device I have to be using to check email real quick.

  • kenneyc Calculating status...

    It was, somehow at one point. When I upgraded to iCloud on my lion machine, it just worked (I've had my account as pop for as long as I can remember). My Mail app settings say "iCloud POP" in the account type, with the shiny iCloud icon and everything.

     

    Different issue, but now I'm looking at how to elegantly move my mail from the pop mailboxes to different folders on my computer so that I can safely delete the account to re-make it as IMAP.

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