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hotwheels 22 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Nov 3, 2011 2:08 PM

Is there an easy way for me to have the same Version in two different projects? Say I want a folder with the version-master but i also want to have some source material for another project that also can easily get to this image? I mean, I'd like the Project with the image and the Albums that I am working on to be in the same folder.

 

Do I have to re-import the image again in order to do this??

 

Thanks

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,570 points)
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    Nov 3, 2011 2:24 PM (in response to hotwheels 22)

    Jon:  Stop.  Learn the parts of the program -- then ask questions.  There is no way to help you until you understand the differences between Projects, Folders, and Albums (let alone Versions and Masters).  This information has been supplied to you several times.  You must learn it before I (at least) can help you proceed.

     

    Your question, to me -- I know Aperture -- sounds like this, asked by a novice chef on the first day in the kitchen:

     

    "I want to make soup with glasses, and serve it bread.  The protein in my apron and on the knife are the same.  Should I restock the 'fridge now?"

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,570 points)
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    Nov 3, 2011 3:09 PM (in response to hotwheels 22)

    hotwheels 22 wrote:

    It /works/ for me. This is how I learn.

     

    Got to move onto other things and I need to finish this for my next project...

     

    It's a very costly way to learn.  I think you are taking advantage of my willingness to provide free advice here (I would be surprised if I didn't speak for many others as well).  If it works for you -- and you can pay for or otherwise find the input you need -- go for it.  But if you are going to repeatedly request my input, you are going to have to show that you have

    - read what I wrote (I spend the time trying to make my posts informative and understandable), and

      - understood, or at least attempted to understand in more than a trivial way, what I wrote.

    There is very little in the hundreds if not thousands of words you have written that indicates that you have done both.

     

    The readers and the answerers on this kind of forum have unwritten rules.  At the top of the list is something like: I'll help you as long as you try to help yourself.  You see you as helping yourself.  I see you as ignoring my posts and advice.  To me, you are not holding up your end of this unwritten bargain.

     

    (As an aside, I learn from other people learning.  You are not learning.  I have no interest whatsoever in not learning.)

     

    Additionally, throwing around how busy you are is insulting.  Everyone I know is busy.  Time is equally valuable to all humans.  That's simply another reason why I will no longer respond.  You have proven unwilling to spend the time doing the work my answers require.

     

    I will finish my correspondence with you with another assignment:  carefully re-read your top post in this topic.  Parse it.  Replace pronouns with their referents.  Replace nouns with their definitions.  Your post is unintelligible.  Making your question intelligible is not my part of the bargain.  Once again, it's yours.

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (11,570 points)
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    Nov 3, 2011 3:54 PM (in response to hotwheels 22)

    Jon -- every word I've written in this thread asks you to clarify what you mean.  When I say "Your post is unintelligible", it means, "Your post is unintelligible".  That you respond by asking me:

     

    hotwheels 22 wrote:

    Can you respond to the direct question(s) or ask me to clarify it if you don't understand?

    ... yet again illustrates plainly that you either do not read, do not understand, or do not care to show understanding of what I write.

     

    Is it helpful for me to write: "Your post in unintelligible.  Please clarify it."?  Do you not understand the parts I wrote about parsing your sentences and replacing the pronouns with their referents?  Have you somehow missed where I've said over and over and over and over that Aperture has parts, those parts have specific names and specific behaviors, and that you have to use the names correctly and make the effort to understand those behaviors?

     

    Here is your post:

    Is there an easy way for me to have the same Version in two different projects? Say I want a folder with the version-master but i also want to have some source material for another project that also can easily get to this image? I mean, I'd like the Project with the image and the Albums that I am working on to be in the same folder.

     

    Do I have to re-import the image again in order to do this??


     

    1. Define "the same Version".  It's a clumsy usage, and meaningless here.
    2. "a folder with the same version-master".  Folders hold containers and only containers.  The last time I told you this I mentioned that you had already been told this repeatedly.
    3. "the same version-master".  "Version-Master" is not a term used by Aperture.  Inventing your own terms is not going to help you understand anything.  Use accepted terms.
    4. "some source material".  What is "source material"?  Another term that has no meaning in this context.  Specify what you mean.
    5. "Source material ... that can also easily get to this image".  While this is passably grammatical, as it stands it has no useful meaning.
    6. "get to this image".  What Image?  To what are you referring when you say "this image (Emphasis added)."
    7. "I'd like the Project and the Albums that I am working on".  How does this apply to what has come before?
    8. "Project with the image and the Albums  ... to be in the same folder".  There is nothing stopping you from putting Projects and Albums in the same Folder.
    9. "Do I have to re-import the image".  You do not import images.  You import files.
    10. "in order to do this".  To do what?

     

    Those are ten things you should have resolved _prior_ to posting, and should have resolved in response to my informing you that your post was unintelligible, instead of asking me to point out why your post is unintelligible.

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,510 points)
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    Nov 3, 2011 4:56 PM (in response to hotwheels 22)

    Jon, we have answered the same questions over and over. You should be able to answer these questions by now on your own.

    The advice we gave you repeatedly was:

    1. RTFM - read the ... manual; you said, you have done so, but it is not enough just to go thru the motions, you have to put effort into trying to understand it.
    2. Learn the terminology and the design concept: That is not only vocabulary to learn, but the semantics and pragmatics, the meaning of the structures inside Aperture and how to use them.
    3. We told you several times to create your own experimental Aperture library; to experiment with the system and to find your answers by exploring the system. You will not get anywhere without doing just that. It is high time for you to start with learning by doing, and on your own.

     

    Good Luck

    Léonie

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,510 points)
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    Nov 3, 2011 5:37 PM (in response to Kirby Krieger)

    Thank you Kirby for finishing that discussion. I was starting to feel like being caught in time loop, after seeing the same question over and over again.

  • léonie Level 8 Level 8 (46,510 points)
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    Nov 4, 2011 12:45 AM (in response to hotwheels 22)

    Jon, these threads with unclear questions from you and desperate attempts by me to make head or tails from your questions didn't help you at all but have proven to be misleading and confusing to other newbies like you seeking helpful answers here. We must not continue to fill this board with material that is dangerous to newbies.

    Maybe you do not like this, but for me it was frightening when I notices yesterday that these threads were very confusing to other people seeking help like you, and that by trying to help you I had put this great board at risk.

  • CalxOddity Level 3 Level 3 (680 points)
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    Nov 4, 2011 1:18 AM (in response to léonie)

    Yikes!  Have I washed up into some time vortex?  I answered these questions a week ago.

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