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Currently Being ModeratedNov 6, 2011 10:24 AM (in response to SPhoto Home)
maybe the same with my MacPro 1.1 (Dec. 2006, Germany) and Lion 10.7.2.
Normal shutdown (3 days ago), new start boots up to the grey logo & spinning wheel. Tried everything. Have 4 hard disks inside. One with a backup of my System-Disk. Both aren`t able to go further then to the grey screen.
Then connected MacBookPro (running 10.7.2) with MacPro with firewire cabel.
Then started MacPro with ALT-key to use my MBP as start volume. It ends as all other ones: not able to boot my MacPro. Using a selfmade startdisc with Lion does not start. I don't believe that it is the logic board as the mac moves on and I am able to send him into sllep mode with the On/Off button. But who knows.
Safe boot and verbose on screen (Shift-cmd-v) ends with this two lines:
com.parallels.kext.prlnet 7.0.14924.699487 has started
com.parallels.kext.vnic 7.0.14924.699487 has started
As I can reach my MacPro via firewire and all the 4 hard drives, where do I find the relevant logs/protocolls of these unseccessfull start procedures inclusive the safe boot (verbose-mode) ?
Currently Being ModeratedNov 6, 2011 11:01 AM (in response to Hannes96)
do a clean install of Lion on a different drive.
Erase the drive / fomat / initialize with Lion and then install
Easier than cloning
Clone allows you to boot from the copy, TimeM does not
Clone or separate drive means you can import your old files
Clean means it is not affected or have any old drivers or software
Lion does not support PowerPC, Rosetta was removed
If Lion 10.7.2 works then you know it is something else
Gradually one by one add back
And even external devices, printers, scanners, drives, and cables can be added back one at a time.
As usual, any and every OS update and you have to wait for vendors to test, certify and post updates like for Parallels 7, and they have only had a couple weeks.
7.0.15050 build was posted a week ago.
Should show up in the apps software update, no?
At least that should help that one area.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 6, 2011 11:38 AM (in response to The hatter)
If the Parallels update would help, how to install it on a MacPro who is only accessible with firewire ?
And why does the Lion startdisk do not work ?
Currently Being ModeratedNov 6, 2011 11:48 AM (in response to Hannes96)
Pull the bump system drive
Do a clean install of OS
Put the old working system in FW case
Update and install
Import / Migrate with Setup Assistant or Migration Assistant
Always have bootable clone backups of everything, redundant.
10.6.8 AND Lion for now even.
And you still have OEM 10.6 DVD
You can always repair from or boot from there.
You need Command R to get to Lion Recovery, assuming and it should be there.
Repair the drive
I am sure there is an uninstaller for Parallels 7 though not whether it can run from another system.
Lion should have something like what Vista on has had, restore points.
You should be able to boot from Recovery Mode and "rollback" the system from TimeMachine.
But you should add a bootable small OS partition in addition for emergency, in addition.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 6, 2011 1:35 PM (in response to The hatter)
@the hatter: First of all: thanks for your assistance !
What I have is: the MacPro 1.1 (2006) and a MacBookPro (2009).
Inside the MacPro:
(1) Start Disc
(2) 2nd Startdisk backed up by SuperDuper from (1) (without Parallels disk)
(3) Media (backup on TimeCapsule)
(4) TM backup of (1) without Parallels
(5): USB-Cradle with my last SnowLeo system-hard disk.
All tests to boot failed with: disk (1) Recovery HD (it is there!) , disk (2), external disk (5), Lion Install DVD , Recovery HD from a USB-Stick (created on my MBP).
All tests ended with a grey blank screen :-(
I'm German, so my English has limits. What do you mean with:
1. "Pull the bump system drive " ? Should I open my mac and put the old start disk aside ?
(by the way: I have a backup-drive inside the MacPro from this start disk.)
2. "Do a clean install of OS". On which disk ? A new one ?
3. "Put the old working system in FW case". ? FW case ? FW=FireWire ? case? I'm sorry, I do not understand what you mean.
4. "Update and install". What has to be updated ? The new installed Lion ?
5. "Import / Migrate with Setup Assistant or Migration Assistant" ? Can't I migrate from "2nd StartDisk" ?
6. "I am sure there is an uninstaller for Parallels 7 though not whether it can run from another system." I cannot use the uninstaller, as I am not able to boot the Mac :-(
7. The first OS on the MacPro was 10.4.6 (Tiger) I had Leo, SnowLeo and now Lion. So I believe it will be the moment to build a new clean Lion system.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 6, 2011 1:43 PM (in response to Hannes96)
Bum drive: the drive that won't boot. Pull it, slide it out. Might want to put it in a USB/FW case.
Any system you boot from has to support your hardware, gpu, and even firmware (though I don't think Lion changed that).
You are about to update to 10.7.2
Clone 10.7.1 and keep your known working "good" system in a safe place that you make with SuperDuper or CCC
Repair the drive before you update
Do a Safe Boot before and after the 10.7.2 update to be safe
Run Repair Permission afterwards
Firewire = FW
I have had in the past trouble typing after CTS/RSI wrist and pain in fingers and wrist
Migrate from whatever you know and want, trying to be the method rather than exact
Yes, 10.4.7 Aug 2006 (post 10.4.6 and a new build every two weeks for awhile!_
Unable to SAFE BOOT is a big issue
Currently Being ModeratedNov 7, 2011 2:20 AM (in response to The hatter)
@The hatter: now I believe the graphic card is defekt ! Cause booting the MacPro from MBookPro (via FW) starts but ends with the same white/grey Monitor. Then I used the option to show the MacPro monitor on the MBP and I see only a BLACK screen of the MacPro.
I am wondering cause during the boot of the MacPro I can see the logo and the spinning wheel a while or the logos of alternative boot devices or the text in verbose mode ! Are these things independent from the graphic card (maybe from the logic board) ?
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2011 11:31 AM (in response to Hannes96)
My problem is solved !
Thanks for your help !
I bought a new graphic-card ( Apple ATI Radeon HD 5770 ) for my MacPro 1.1 via Apple Store.
But I have a question: Must I use the slot on the bottom or can a use a PCIe-Slot in the midle for better cooling ?
Currently Being ModeratedNov 14, 2011 1:02 PM (in response to Hannes96)
It is double wide
boost the fans if you want, system,not gpu, with SmcFanControl which you should be using already. hard to get air over those fbdimms which are hot and high watt and why you should let it cool 10 minutes before opening the side door.