Analog mixer instead of FW or USB audio interface?

I have been looking for a way to get sound into this imac (last year's top model with good sound chip). I was looking at firewire and USB, but since all I need in are my midi keyboard (M-Audio 88ES), and 2 XLR phantom mics, some over on Mac Jams suggested I try an analog mixer. That way I can plug it into line in and show up sort of premixed in GB, if you know what I mean.


Does this make sense?


I cannoyt afford anything over the focusrite Pro 14 or so (in Japan) and some Macki, aleis and other local brands seem cheraper and have the phantom power I think. Any reason NOT to use a mixer? Some swear by the cheapest Behringers from years ago, and the Mackies seem ok, so curious how many are going that route or things to watch out for.


Mics are rode NY 1-A and Shure 57 probably.




Thank you.

Posted on Nov 6, 2011 11:51 PM

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Nov 7, 2011 7:15 AM in response to tokyo progressive

Thank you. Let me see.


Using an interface,and recording 2 things at a time, I could, I think, do the following in GB:


1) Make Mic 1 pan left or pan right or mix (not sure if stereo or mono)

2) Do the same with Mic 2.


Using the mixer, I would, I assume


1) achieve the same balance at mixer line out

2) Stereo line out would, presumably, go to a single stereo track in GB


So it seems, practically speaking, since I am only doing two mics at a time, there would be very little difference.


But if I am missing something, please help me understand. You said I could record each of the stereo tracks to a different GB track. Do you mean if I go back and record again?



Thanks!

Nov 7, 2011 9:30 AM in response to tokyo progressive

With a interface you don't pan just send each chanel to it's own mono track. The same can be done with a mixer by panning a channel and sending to mono tracks.


The advantage to a interface is they are lighter, usually wont need a power supply, have better mic pre's compared with price points and do the A/D conversion on the interface and not in the computer.


If you don't need a analog mixer for other uses then a interface is probably the best way to go.

Nov 7, 2011 3:38 PM in response to tokyo progressive

tokyo progressive wrote:


I have been looking for a way to get sound into this imac (last year's top model with good sound chip). I was looking at firewire and USB, but since all I need in are my midi keyboard (M-Audio 88ES), and 2 XLR phantom mics, some over on Mac Jams suggested I try an analog mixer. That way I can plug it into line in and show up sort of premixed in GB, if you know what I mean.


Does this make sense?


NO!!!!


They're wrong.


For your application, an interface is vastly superior.

Nov 7, 2011 3:56 PM in response to tokyo progressive

tokyo progressive wrote:


But if I am missing something, please help me understand.


The main difference is how you shuttle audio into the computer.


With an analog mixer, you're shoving all your audio into a tiny, consumer grade 1/8th audio jack and then into the electrical storm of a computer where it is vulnerable to distortion before a cheap, consumer grade converter only then turns it into the digital data used by garageband.


With an interface, you are performing the conversion outside of the computer, in a much more audio-friendly environment with what is likely a much better analog to digital converter. Your audio is fortified into a digital stream of 1's and 0's before it enters the computer. You've bypassed all the distortion your signal would otherwise experience through the computer's analog circuitry. It's a safer, more pristine way to shuttle audio into a computer while preserving as much of the original quality as possible.


I'd add that the other main difference 🙂 is as isteveus and christoph explain above. Using an interface, it's far easier to manage the translation of your analog tracks into garageband's virtual tracks.

Nov 7, 2011 4:58 PM in response to MattiMattMatt

Thanks all.


Not having an interface or mixer, I tested my Ipad GB into my Mac Ipad. I recorded an instrumental hard left and hard right. Piped that into the Mac two ways:


1) Two tracks: Mono left and Mono right

2) One track: Stero


The differences were negligible. And the sound excellent. From an editing point of view, the two mono tracks were better becauseI could correct for stuff in each channel. I understand the points made about the quality of the components. Then again, I have read good things about some mixers and as I am basically acoustic with few complex recording needs, the MACKIE 402Vlz3 looked ok.


On the other hand, I found the Firewire Focusrite Saffire PRO 14 at about the same price.


But while this interface gets good reviews, I read bad things about some like M-Audio, and even more about USB. Strangely, their own Saffire 6 is USB 1.1 though and gets excellent reviews. Somehow I have the (false?) impression that interfaces have their own issues and that mixers are simpler. Then again, I come from the days of open reel and analog mixers......


Anyway, about the Pro 14, it also says in Standalone mode it "works by recalling mixer routing settings stored inside memory on the Saffire interface itself. A computer is required for initial setup, but once you've programmed and saved your routing assignments to the hardware, you can use your interface as a free-standing summing mixer or a complex routing matrix, for sending signals around a stage or studio."


That seems to imply I could use it as a gig mixer, although I don't see how as it is bus powered.


Anyway, thanks...willl go with one or the other......


paul




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