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  • deggie Level 8 Level 8 (49,410 points)

    So should it also be optional to show levels?

     

    As far as your assumption that people who answer questions with one word answers, I try to emulate Neil whenever I can. There are many questions here that can easily be answered with one word answers, adding more is just clutter. But I can also answer questions that require more than that. Has nothing to do with trying to rack up points. And I really don't care what motivates people to answer here. If they are doing it to amass points and helping people in the process, good on them.

     

    Meg has made her request in the appropriate place, I'm sure the hosts have seen it, now it is up to them. If there is a monetary cost that Jive will pass on to Apple we will probably never see it changed.

  • WZZZ Level 6 Level 6 (12,660 points)

    It has to be all or nothing. Some showing and others not, including levels, will just lead to questions and confusion.

     

    This leads us right back to square one, which is the very tired (and tiring), ancient discussion of the validity and usefulness of the points system.

  • Meg The Dog Level 6 Level 6 (10,420 points)

    Yes, I was not clear, my suggestion was to make the level and points display optional, as one is paired with the other.

     

    I have attempted (and apparently failed) to keep the thread focused on providing the option of including those for those who want to display it and the option to not display that info if the user chooses.

     

    I wanted to avoid devolving the thread (as it appears to keep wanting to do) into a discussion of why someone would make the choice.

     

    Poster WZZZ has chosen an alias, chosen to display Don Martin artwork for an avatar, and chosen to display a location. Again, my proposal is simply to allow the choice of displaying the posters awarded points (and status!).

     

    What a user decides to do with that choice was not the subject of this thread, and some posts have confused this.

     

    Thanks!

     

    MtD

     

    Message was edited by: Meg The Dog to fix typo

  • WZZZ Level 6 Level 6 (12,660 points)
    I wanted to avoid devolving the thread (as it appears to keep wanting to do) into a discussion of why someone would make the choice.

    A discussion of why is absolutely germane. This isn't a discussion about the purpose and validity of the points system, which I'm not interested in having. It is a discussion of why points accrued and level, since that is the system we are, for better or worse, living with, should be made optional and user controlled.

     

    My choice to provide, or not, a location and other obviously private information, such as my email address, is entirely different from showing points accrued, which is not, as far as I can see, a private matter. I think you will have to make a very good argument, instead of continually begging the question, for why this area should be considered private.

  • Meg The Dog Level 6 Level 6 (10,420 points)

    I very much appreciate your thoughtful and reasonable posts . . . but again, as I said earlier, a poster may have their own reasons to opt for the display, or not - and this thread is about obtaining the option to do so.

     

    You have said that:

     

    . . . showing points accrued, which is not, as far as I can see, a private matter.

    In my view, I would not necessarily describe them as "private" - but the display of points, in my judgement, are appropriate to be under my control as being displayed or not. And instituting this option would apply to all posters, equally. You have the option to display a Mad Magazine artists work for your avatar. I choose not.

     

    You like anchovies on your Pizza. I do not. Fine, just be sure to order the Pizza half with, and half without.

     

    What has been a complete surprise to me is that there are posters that feel having this option, and allowing the user to decide is somehow . . . incorrect? . . . wrong?. . . trouble making? And yet don't offer a reason why the users points must be displayed.

     

    Here is an example from earlier this morning -

    Exhibit A - Option not enabled:

    SafariScreenSnapz001.jpg

     

    And Exhibt B - Option enabled:

     

    SafariScreenSnapz002.jpg

     

    What is the problem with exhibit B that makes it a bad idea?

     

    For those that say the point system allows them to identify newbies, I would say this: I know something about Final Cut Studio, and how it interfaces with non-Apple broadcast gear, but know nothing about IOS5 or Lion. Yet if I were to venture into those forums, my points follow me, even though I know nothing in those areas.

     

    MtD

  • MattiMattMatt Level 4 Level 4 (2,420 points)

    not that I think apple would implement any of this, but a solution to some of the objections would be to make the hidden point option only available after you earned enough points. for example, level 4 on up could hide points

  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (43,485 points)

    As was noted early, the points/levels are an intrinsic part of the forum. They give other posters an idea of who's answers to give credence to. Without some sense of how useful people's answers have proved in the past, any answers they give to my questions are questionable. I would tend to ignore them.

     

    I fail to see how this is a privacy issue like your location or email address. Those points have been awarded to you by other members of the forum. They are part of the public dialog. You also can't hide your posts once you've made them.

  • Meg The Dog Level 6 Level 6 (10,420 points)

    Again: I am not advocating for you, or anyone else to not display your points.


    I am advocating for an option to display mine.

     

    If I post without displaying my points and my posts are overlooked as a consequence, that is perfectly fine with me - as I have exercised my option to do so, and I understand that may be a consequence.

     

    And as you point out, the correct answer, and helpful answers (as indicated by the OP) -  will still be indicated, and will be archived and available for searching - regardless of being made by a poster that chooses to display their points or not.

     

    Thanks!

     

    MtD

     

    Message was edited by: Meg The Dog to fix typo

  • WZZZ Level 6 Level 6 (12,660 points)

    You have already made your point numerous times. The dog should now stop chewing on the bone.

  • Meg The Dog Level 6 Level 6 (10,420 points)

    Sorry,was being courteous to the person the posted above me this morning.

     

    MtD

  • Klaus1 Level 8 Level 8 (45,520 points)

    At least you have won the award for the most boring, pointless (I choose my words carefully) thread of all time.

  • Meg The Dog Level 6 Level 6 (10,420 points)

    If only it were "pointless"! ha-ha!

     

    Thanks

    MtD

  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (43,485 points)

    You missed the significant arguement: Points, reputation are a purely public function. You get points for doing something publicly. They are intended as public recognition. Their entire function is to let other people know the value that the forum has given your advice. They're not something for you to take home and hide under your mattress.

  • ~Bee Level 7 Level 7 (31,125 points)

    Meg --

     

    They're not something for you to take home and hide under your mattress.