Time Machine Backup Folders Locked

Every now and then I plug my external hard drive into my MBP to copy over some important folders. Both my MBP and iMac are running OS X Lion.


This time, I am unable to look inside several of the folders as they appear to be locked. I'm a little puzzled what is stated under the permissions section, apparently everyone has read + write access and above that is something called 'fetching' which I have no idea what it is.


Does anyone know what the issue might be? I am able to view the files fine on my iMac.


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Posted on Nov 9, 2011 8:19 AM

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Nov 9, 2011 4:15 PM in response to pealo86

Time Machine backups are protected by very restrictive ACLs, to keep us mere mortals from fooling with them and corrupting our backups.


You should be able to view and restore items from the backups via the Time Machine "Star Wars" display -- it's designed for that. But it will enforce user privileges -- normally one user, even an Admin user, doesn't have permission to see a different user's files.


Normally, Time Machine only shows the backups for the Mac you're running on. To see other backups, you'll need the Browse Other Backup Disks option, per #17 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions. For info on restoring, see #15 there.


Depending on how many user accounts you have, and how and in what order they were created, you may still have some permissions problems. If so, try a different user account.

Dec 8, 2011 4:33 AM in response to Pondini

Sorry I've only just realised now that you replied to this thread!


Thanks for the advice.


I've tried the Star Wars display but with no luck, none of the backups from my iMac are listed. Also, I tried the link you gave me but it doesn't appear to mention what to do when the folders are "locked"?


I never used to have this problem in Snow Leopard, just seems to have cropped up after upgrading.


Surely there must be a way to disable it? Talk about making something over secure!

Dec 8, 2011 8:17 AM in response to pealo86

pealo86 wrote:

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I've tried the Star Wars display but with no luck, none of the backups from my iMac are listed.

You're on the MBP, trying to look at the backups from an iMac, right? If so, you must use the Browse.. option, per #17 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions.


It's not clear just how you back the iMac up to that drive -- if it's over a network, the backups are in a sparse bundle disk image, which you may have to mount manually before using the Browse .. option.


Also, I tried the link you gave me but it doesn't appear to mention what to do when the folders are "locked"?

They're not locked: they belong to a different user account. One user, even an Admin user, doesn't normally have permission to see a different user's files.


The definition of a "user account" may be the problem here; if you have UserA on one Mac and UserA on another, they're not necessarily the same user to OSX -- they may have different User ID numbers (UIDs). See the pink box in Problems after using Migration Assistant for an explanation.


Those permissions are copied to your backups, and OSX enforces them when you try to access backups.


So . . . see what the UIDs are for the accounts in question, on the two Macs, via the example in the pink box. It sounds like they're different. If so, post back with the numbers, and we'll look for a solution.


I never used to have this problem in Snow Leopard, just seems to have cropped up after upgrading.

How did you upgrade? Did you upgrade "in place" or did you do a "clean install" of either Mac?


If you did a "clean install," how did you transfer your apps, user accounts, data, etc.? Especially if you used Migration Assistant (instead of Setup Assistant), that may be the cause.


Surely there must be a way to disable it? Talk about making something over secure!

Not easily 😟 but there may be a workaround. (If it was easy, one user would no longer be protected from prying eyes.)

Dec 8, 2011 8:42 AM in response to pealo86

This is how I dealth with this problem when I ran into it. It seems that you are browsing the backup drive in Finder, not in Star Wars mode (based on your screenshot). That's how I did it.


In order to preserve the integrity of the backup, what I did was copy the folder I'm interested in seeing to the desktop. It will still be protected, though. Then, I log out [we'll call me user 1] and log back in as the root user, browse to the folder in question, and change the permissions so that it's fully accessible to "user 1".


I hope this works....

Dec 12, 2011 1:07 AM in response to Pondini

Thanks for the info.


Yes it does sound like the ID numbers are different as I performed a clean install on both Macs.


I'm thinking the easiest way will be simply to copy the folder in question onto the root directory of my external hard drive (whilst using my iMac) and then copy it to my MBP that way... save myself a lot of hassle!


Thanks again.

Dec 12, 2011 9:12 AM in response to pealo86

pealo86 wrote:


Thanks for the info.


Yes it does sound like the ID numbers are different as I performed a clean install on both Macs.

What are the numbers of each (per the instructions in my earlier post)?


I'm thinking the easiest way will be simply to copy the folder in question onto the root directory of my external hard drive (whilst using my iMac) and then copy it to my MBP that way... save myself a lot of hassle!

That's unlikely to work. OSX will copy and enforce the permissions, although if it will let you copy it to a volume that doesn't enforce permissions, then you can copy it to the MBP.

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