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Q: iPhone 4S 5.0.1 Update Improves Battery w/ Settings Reset

After installing the update make sure you reset all setttings. I have done a few updates now  and  have had much better  sucess after settings reset all. Standby drain has been virtually eliminated from 2-4% hr before update. It is located in settings/reset//reset all settings. You loose some wifi and desktop settings, but data, apps, etc remain intact.

Posted on Nov 11, 2011 5:33 PM

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Q: iPhone 4S 5.0.1 Update Improves Battery w/ Settings Reset

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  • by sanjayfromtoronto,

    sanjayfromtoronto sanjayfromtoronto Dec 4, 2011 9:28 AM in response to davidch
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    Dec 4, 2011 9:28 AM in response to davidch

    David, I did the steps summarized in your post on page 33 (Nov 25, 11;25am) sightly differently but got the same result. This worked! The battery after 28 hours is still at 60%. This is with my normal usage. I bought my 64GB unlocked 4S directly from Apple last week and I was unable to get through even one day with minimal use. It lost 5% per hour. The max life I got was 10 hours 15 minutes from 100% to 0% and auto shutdown. I tried all suggstions - turning off location services, Siri etc, but nothing had helped.  Here's what I did:

     

    1. Restored from iTunes.  Interestingly, even though the phone was on 5.0.1 out of the box, it asked if I wanted to upgrade.  Not sure what it upgraded but I let it do so.  Perhaps your reset would have accomplished the same.

    2. Did the initial setup and asked iTunes to Set up as NEW.  Did not restore from a backup.

    3. Changed settings as follows:

    - WIFI on and connected to my home network.  I leave it on always.

    - Notifications - removed Stock Widget and Game Centre

    - Location services ON - Allow only Camera, Maps.  Turned off for Siri (can't find anything in Canada anyway) and Weather.  System Services ALL off.

    - General Settings:  siri on; network>cellular data on, data roming off; bluetooth off; WIFI sync off (I'm old and prefer the wired connection); spotlight search> delected podcasts, videos, audiobooks (I don't need these); date and time>set timezone automatically is off;

    - iCloud - don't use it yet

    - Mail, contacts, calendar - I have mobileme, 1 pop, and windows live.  Fetch new data> Push is ON; Calendar TimeZone Support is OFF

    - Facetime is on

     

    This seems to be working now after 2 days.  I will let the battery discharge to zero today and recharge.

     

    Thanks for the tip.  It is good into the second day now.

  • by ram130,

    ram130 ram130 Dec 4, 2011 9:35 AM in response to sanjayfromtoronto
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    Dec 4, 2011 9:35 AM in response to sanjayfromtoronto

    I've found that with itunes wifi sync enabled the drain is 1% per hour. Without it that goes does down to 0.5%, anyone notice the same??

  • by Skipjack Captain,

    Skipjack Captain Skipjack Captain Dec 4, 2011 2:26 PM in response to davidch
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    Dec 4, 2011 2:26 PM in response to davidch

    Daivdch,

     

    I used your recommended settings reset, battery drain and recharge method and it seems to have made a marked improvement in the battery life of my 4S.  I am now getting a full day of heavy use out of one charge as I believe I should and probably would get two days with light use.  There is little standby battery drain any longer and what  drain I do experience is in line with phone usage as opposed to standby time.  In effect I am getting battery performance on par with my prior iPhone 4 which is all I ask given all the new battery intensive features rolled out iOS 5 and iCould.

     

    My only comment (and it has been identified by others) is that it seems to take two settings resets before you are given the choice to set the phone up as a new iPhone.  The first time through the proceddure I was not given this opportunity and was also not asked about region or language.  The second time I performed the reset the phone truly took me back to the setup as though it were new out of the box including aking me about region, language and giving the choice to set up as new.  It seems that the first time through iOS does not give you these choices but doing it twice sets it back to original.  Just a heads up.

     

    Thank you very much for your insight and patience with this and other strings on the topic.  Your input has been invaluable and has given me the phone I expected when I bought it and can be proud of.  I was really getting discouraged otherwise what with having to plug in for a charge at every opportunity.

     

    Nicely done and I appreciate your efforts.

     

    Best,

     

    Doug

  • by davidch,

    davidch davidch Dec 4, 2011 3:29 PM in response to sflomenb
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    Dec 4, 2011 3:29 PM in response to sflomenb

    sflomenb wrote:

     

    My stats before I went to bed last night:

    56%

    Usage: 3 hours, 3 minuets

    Standby: 14 hours, 2 minuets

     

    At 7:16 this morning:

    50%

    Usage: 3 hours, 11 minuets

    Standby: 23 hours, 27 minuets

     

    So overnight, it drained 6%, gained 8 minuets of usage and 9 hours, 15 minuets of Standby.

     

    What do you guys think? (it was on Wi-Fi)

     

    looks good to me...

  • by davidch,

    davidch davidch Dec 4, 2011 3:31 PM in response to sanjayfromtoronto
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    Dec 4, 2011 3:31 PM in response to sanjayfromtoronto

    sanjayfromtoronto wrote:

     

    David, I did the steps summarized in your post on page 33 (Nov 25, 11;25am) sightly differently but got the same result. This worked! The battery after 28 hours is still at 60%. This is with my normal usage. I bought my 64GB unlocked 4S directly from Apple last week and I was unable to get through even one day with minimal use. It lost 5% per hour. The max life I got was 10 hours 15 minutes from 100% to 0% and auto shutdown. I tried all suggstions - turning off location services, Siri etc, but nothing had helped.  Here's what I did:

     

    1. Restored from iTunes.  Interestingly, even though the phone was on 5.0.1 out of the box, it asked if I wanted to upgrade.  Not sure what it upgraded but I let it do so.  Perhaps your reset would have accomplished the same.

    2. Did the initial setup and asked iTunes to Set up as NEW.  Did not restore from a backup.

    3. Changed settings as follows:

    - WIFI on and connected to my home network.  I leave it on always.

    - Notifications - removed Stock Widget and Game Centre

    - Location services ON - Allow only Camera, Maps.  Turned off for Siri (can't find anything in Canada anyway) and Weather.  System Services ALL off.

    - General Settings:  siri on; network>cellular data on, data roming off; bluetooth off; WIFI sync off (I'm old and prefer the wired connection); spotlight search> delected podcasts, videos, audiobooks (I don't need these); date and time>set timezone automatically is off;

    - iCloud - don't use it yet

    - Mail, contacts, calendar - I have mobileme, 1 pop, and windows live.  Fetch new data> Push is ON; Calendar TimeZone Support is OFF

    - Facetime is on

     

    This seems to be working now after 2 days.  I will let the battery discharge to zero today and recharge.

     

    Thanks for the tip.  It is good into the second day now.

     

    sanjay... great to hear it iworked for you.  it does seem to work for most people with the issue in my experience

  • by davidch,

    davidch davidch Dec 4, 2011 3:48 PM in response to ram130
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    Dec 4, 2011 3:48 PM in response to ram130

    ram130 wrote:

     

    I've found that with itunes wifi sync enabled the drain is 1% per hour. Without it that goes does down to 0.5%, anyone notice the same??

     

    ram130... although i am not using wifi sync myself, i would think it would have a impact due to continuous polling of the iTunes computer.  how much is difficult to say, but an add'l 0.5% per hr seems possible... thanks for info

  • by ram130,

    ram130 ram130 Dec 4, 2011 4:08 PM in response to davidch
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    Dec 4, 2011 4:08 PM in response to davidch

    I think it's because it keeps wifi active when the phone is suppose to be in sleep mode. When wifi sync is off then wifi turns off when the screen turns off and you see 3G then the wifi icon once you wake the phone. I think Apple needs to look into it.

     

    This is what I've noticed:

     

    Wifi Sync Enabled:

     

    *Phone keeps wifi active. regardless if charger is plugged in or not.

    *Extra drain because both wifi and 3G is active during sleep mode(screen off).

    *iPhone shows up in iTunes when off the charger. Ejecting from itunes only works for 3mins or so until it reconnects automatically again.

    *Battery drain is reduce a bit once iPhone is ejected and iTunes is closed.

     

    Wifi Sync Disabled;

     

    *Wifi goes to sleep once screen goes off.

    *Less battery drain, but not by much.

     

     

    I think it should work like this:

     

    *If unplugged, behave normally and let wifi sleep

    *plugged in, ping iTunes and sync, remain connected

    *plugged out after sync, remain connected until user ejects iPhone from iTunes.

    *plugged out after sync, still connected, allow user to manually push sync until ejected

    *plugged out after sync, once user ejects iPhone then resume normal wifi sleep mode.

     

    Anyway yesterday I got 5 usage and a day of stand by with this enabled. I was only on wifi for 7 hours total. I mainly read some news for a hour, music for 3 hours, download a app on 2G(1x) in a poor area it was around 2mb, terrible signal area for a hour. Got home with 34%, went to sleep for 5hours and woke up to 29% with wifi on. Normally with wifi sync disabled I'd only loose 3% or so.

  • by davidch,

    davidch davidch Dec 4, 2011 4:10 PM in response to Skipjack Captain
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    Dec 4, 2011 4:10 PM in response to Skipjack Captain

    Skipjack Captain wrote:

     

    Daivdch,

     

    I used your recommended settings reset, battery drain and recharge method and it seems to have made a marked improvement in the battery life of my 4S.  I am now getting a full day of heavy use out of one charge as I believe I should and probably would get two days with light use.  There is little standby battery drain any longer and what  drain I do experience is in line with phone usage as opposed to standby time.  In effect I am getting battery performance on par with my prior iPhone 4 which is all I ask given all the new battery intensive features rolled out iOS 5 and iCould.

    Doug,

     

    Glad it worked out for you and agree with you expectations.  1 solid day with moderate to heavy usage or up to 2 days with light to moderate usage has been my experience with all my iPhones.

     

    My only comment (and it has been identified by others) is that it seems to take two settings resets before you are given the choice to set the phone up as a new iPhone.  The first time through the proceddure I was not given this opportunity and was also not asked about region or language.  The second time I performed the reset the phone truly took me back to the setup as though it were new out of the box including aking me about region, language and giving the choice to set up as new.  It seems that the first time through iOS does not give you these choices but doing it twice sets it back to original.  Just a heads up.

    Thanks for the heads up and have heard similar comments from some others.  I will try add something to the recommended process making users aware.

     

    Thank you very much for your insight and patience with this and other strings on the topic.  Your input has been invaluable and has given me the phone I expected when I bought it and can be proud of.  I was really getting discouraged otherwise what with having to plug in for a charge at every opportunity.

     

    Nicely done and I appreciate your efforts.

     

    Best,

     

    Doug

    Your very welcome and very glad I could help out.  I was also discouraged myself the first few days of owning my 4S due this standby battery issue.  Having some background in the mobile field (incl mac and iOS devices), I decided to try a variety of things out.  Reducing some of the notification and location services helped, deleting/recreating mail accoutns, etc, but still did not seem right. When 5.0.1 was released, I saw that some users were fixed while others were the same or in some case worse.  I had seen corrupt settings/prefs and calibration issues on previous iPhones (and Macs)... so that led me to that and recalibrating the battery.  It fixed my 4S, my wife's 4S, her older 3GS (kids now), our iPad 2 and a coworkers 4 and I realized I was onto something.  I originally tried to post my experience on other threads but the complaining and negativity was just too tough to break through, so I started my own and done what I can to keep it positive and on track.

  • by Skipjack Captain,

    Skipjack Captain Skipjack Captain Dec 4, 2011 4:23 PM in response to davidch
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    Dec 4, 2011 4:23 PM in response to davidch

    Davidch,

     

    You just triggered a thought based on my anecdotal experience that further validates your approach and logic.  I have not experienced any unusual battery drain since updating my iPad 2 to iOS 5 and 5.0.1 and was puzzled when my new 4S had such poor battery life and yet the iPad remained exactly as is was prior to iOS 5.

     

    I recall that when installing the iOS update to the iPad 2 I fouled up the backup and was unable to restore my data (and thus settings) from before the system update.  This forced me to manually sych all my apps and reestablish settings manually once iOS 5 was installed.  In effect, I was treating it as a new device and not porting over any corrupt settings, files, or other nad news.  The iPad has been flawless all along including after updating to iOS 5.0.1.

     

    The iPhone 4S on the other hand was set up by porting over from a backup of my iPhone 4 so all the ills were brought along with it (or initiated as a result of the beckup/restore).

     

    Given your hypothisis and the success I have had with your solution it is very plausilble that something is being corrupted in the backup/restore process that is causing the battery drain.  I wonder if the same battery drain has been true with new, out of the box 4S's that have never been synched to or rerstored from any backup?  Do they also experience the drain or is it just with the restoration of backups?

     

    Just more food for thought.

     

    Best,

     

    Doug

  • by Skipjack Captain,

    Skipjack Captain Skipjack Captain Dec 4, 2011 4:31 PM in response to davidch
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    Dec 4, 2011 4:31 PM in response to davidch

    Davidch,

     

    And lastly you mention in your first response to my post that you had experienced similar battery calibration issues in Macs as well.  I have a Mid-2011 (current producion) MacBook Air that seems to have developed a tendancy never to show a full charge though it spends much of its life plugged in 24/7.  Will a full battery drain and recharge recallibrate the MacBook battery and give more accurate charging status as well?  It makes sense to me that it would.

     

    Curious,

     

    Doug

  • by kylebridges,

    kylebridges kylebridges Dec 4, 2011 4:42 PM in response to davidch
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    Dec 4, 2011 4:42 PM in response to davidch

    Hi davidch,

     

    I have initiated the process you've described that is supposed to help with battery life and I am waiting for my battery to completely discharge before I charge it.  However, now when I go into my messages, there are just numbers and no names.  Do you know how to fix this without resyncing the phone (as I know you warned against this because it may put the corrupt settings back on the phone)?

     

    Thanks for all of your help!

  • by davidch,

    davidch davidch Dec 4, 2011 4:49 PM in response to kylebridges
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    Dec 4, 2011 4:49 PM in response to kylebridges

    kylebridges wrote:

     

    Hi davidch,

     

    I have initiated the process you've described that is supposed to help with battery life and I am waiting for my battery to completely discharge before I charge it.  However, now when I go into my messages, there are just numbers and no names.  Do you know how to fix this without resyncing the phone (as I know you warned against this because it may put the corrupt settings back on the phone)?

     

    Thanks for all of your help!

    are you on verizon?  there is an issue specifically with verizon causing that issue.  i don't work with any verizon users, personally, so have not seen it. i read that to fix it, you just need to disenable iCloud contacts (i.e. settings -> iCloud, turn of contacts, turn back on contacts).  if that does not work, you will need to contact verizon tech support and have them reset some things on their end.  check page 3 of the thread for more details.  good luck

  • by kylebridges,

    kylebridges kylebridges Dec 4, 2011 4:51 PM in response to davidch
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    Dec 4, 2011 4:51 PM in response to davidch

    Yep! I'm on Verizon.  Will try to disable iCloud contacts and re-enable.

  • by davidch,

    davidch davidch Dec 4, 2011 5:06 PM in response to Skipjack Captain
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    Dec 4, 2011 5:06 PM in response to Skipjack Captain

    Skipjack Captain wrote:

     

    Davidch,

     

    And lastly you mention in your first response to my post that you had experienced similar battery calibration issues in Macs as well.  I have a Mid-2011 (current producion) MacBook Air that seems to have developed a tendancy never to show a full charge though it spends much of its life plugged in 24/7.  Will a full battery drain and recharge recallibrate the MacBook battery and give more accurate charging status as well?  It makes sense to me that it would.

     

    Curious,

     

    Doug

     

    Full discharge and full recharge should recalibrate your battery... you may also want to go into your system preferences -> energy saver and choose "restore defaults" before you start.  If that does not work, you may also want to reset your PRAM/NVRAM as described in this apple document below:

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379?viewlocale=en_US

  • by ram130,

    ram130 ram130 Dec 4, 2011 5:18 PM in response to kylebridges
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    Dec 4, 2011 5:18 PM in response to kylebridges

    To fix the contact issue just dial *228 then hit 1 and wait until the call ends and it says update complete.  Once done double tap the home button and close Phone and Messaging. Wait 3mins then reopen your call log. It should be fix. If not completely then reboot.

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