iTune Match 25,000+ library

No.

Note that the 25,000 limit applies to songs in your library that are not purchased formn iTunes and songs that do not match anything in iTunes.

So if you RIP'd a CD and that same album is in the iTunes store, it will not count against your 25,000 limit.

You're still out of luck if you simply have a library larger than 25k songs - the service won't even let you sign up. There is no option to match just a subset of your library. You're simply barred from the service.

See here: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3492422

Even if they are songs that would match they still count in your 25,000 limit. It's only songs purchased from iTunes store that don't count against the max.

mostly42 wrote:

Even if they are songs that would match they still count in your 25,000 limit. It's only songs purchased from iTunes store that don't count against the max.

Actually, this is incorrect.

The license for iTunes Match states,

"iTunes Match works with libraries that contain up to 25,000 songs which are either ℹ not currently available on the iTunes Service, or (ii) not purchased from the iTunes Service with your Account. Songs with quality less than 96 kbps or that are not authorized for your computer are not eligible for iTunes Match."

There are some issues still to be worked out so hopefully, this will get sorted.

Where is this iTunes Match License? I don't remember ever seeing it worded that way, but I'd be really happy to be wrong. I know I don't have more than 25,000 songs, in my collection, that aren't a part of the milions in the iTunes Store. As it is right now a person can't even sign up for it with a library over 25k to see how much would match up with iTunes. Right now and all through the developer beta of it, what I said is how it was working. Not to say I'm correct or not but even if a song matched it still counted against my 25,000 max and I tested it lots of time during the developers beta. I hope these are just issues as you say and will be fixed.

The license is here -> http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/ww/

Look at the iTunes store Terms and Conditions and Terms of Sale.

" I don't remember ever seeing it worded that way,"

Everything I have read since May has been stated this way.

This is a pretty big deal and likely it (and iCloud) will get tweaked over the coming months.

Thanks. I see what you mean. It just doesn't work that wayright now and hopely it gets fixed soon. And hopefully the fix isn't a change to the wording in that license agreement.

Yeah its not working that way right now. I have 37,492 songs in my library, 98% of them I would imagine are in the iTunes catalog and matchable, but it won't even let me in to scan...just says I'm over 25,000 songs and I'm denied any sign up...

Fix this please. Waiting with my $25 in hand.

I have a feeling it will be a long time until this is fixed.

I sure as heck hope not. It is rather annoying that such a simple feature was not thought of to begin with.

It sure looks to me like the matching isn't working as well as Apple anticipated. I have hundreds of tracks (out of about 6,000) that are common songs available from the iTunes store that do not match for some reason. I'm starting to suspect that they are trying to match track audio and not just track meta data. If so, that is never going to work well.

If that is true, that is a terribly dumb idea. It won't work, ever. So many songs are different lenght, even by a slight second or two, etc...not sure how or what they are using to match, but it does sound like its not working well. Meta data is the only way to go...trusting what iTunes has in our libraries and using that meta data is the best way.

ChrisMc73 wrote:

If that is true, that is a terribly dumb idea.

Actually, it's a terrificaly good and efficient way to identify songs,.

Meta data is the only way to go

Not a good idea at all.

What if there is no metadata or incorrect metadata? Plenty of people don't use or care about having correct/any song info.

If they used metadata, users could have a single song, change the metadata to et a new song.

Do it all by script and end up with every song in iTunes store.

ChrisMc73 wrote:

… Meta data is the only way to go...trusting what iTunes has in our libraries and using that meta data is the best way.

Gotta say, the first thing I do when I download a song from the iTunes Store is tweak the meta data to match my own sorting preferences, anyway. (Why would anyone want Halloween and Christmas songs mixed in one genre named "Holiday"? That's just the most recent example that comes to mind.)

Has anyone tried creating a new, separate iTunes library with fewer than 25K songs in it, joining iTunes Match, then returning to the original, full library? What does iTunes Match do if a fully fledged subscriber exceeds the limit?

Tho' with only 5K+ songs in my own library, it really isn't my fight.