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iTunes Match vs. Play Counts

Hello everyone - I need some help.


I signed up for Match last night, and it matched/uploaded just about all of my music. I've been messing with it today trying to figure out how it works, and ran into an error that I can't figure out - play counts.


I downloaded a new album (CAMP by Childish Gambino, if you're wondering), imported it into iTunes, uploaded it to iCloud/Match, and it was listed as "Matched." The album showed up on my iPhone and my iPad. Perfect!


I listened to it a few times on my phone, rated a few songs, etc, then opened up iTunes to see what it did. It pulled down the ratings from the cloud, but not the play counts. I plugged my phone in and synced (wifi sync wasn't connecting due to an unknown error) in hopes that an itunes sync would pull the play counts down, but no luck...


Anyone else tried this or have a similar experience? I have a few playlists built around play counts and would really like to have my play counts updated. Thanks!

Mac OS X (10.7.2)

Posted on Nov 15, 2011 11:10 AM

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Jul 19, 2012 12:58 AM in response to warsun

It does update the play count data eventually, but it takes it's time about it, it's something Apple need to address in their next round of software updates for both iOS & iTunes. Why it updates the data on the initial track straight away but then takes 24 hrs or more to update subsequent tracks may have something to do with the way the device records the data & when it can be bothered to talk to the servers & tell it what it's been upto.

Aug 21, 2012 6:44 PM in response to tikilab

I called Apple Customer Service recently to try to speak to a human being on this issue. The rep who answered the phone "waived" the fee and told me that this is an acknowledged problem (counts awry after joining iTunes Match, etc.) and that Apple plans to fix the problem in the next version of iTunes. Hard to believe that a company as "leading edge" as Apple has not addressed this problem head on. If I were able to get a refund of iTunes Match enrollment, that would be my solution. Unfortunately, Apple has become so big that customer satisfaction is no longer a concern.

Sep 21, 2012 2:24 AM in response to LeMarcus

Truth is... Who knows. I thought it was all fixed too, but after upgrading to iOS 6 on my iPhone and trying iTunes Match again on this device, my play counts for my most played songs in iTunes doubled + 1. So what was plays: 69 is now plays: 140.


So that, combined with iTunes Match on the iPhone still deleting random tracks... I turned it off again. And as wifi sync is also back on the blink again, I'm back to trusty cable-sync.

Sep 21, 2012 8:43 AM in response to Community User

I too ran into the "double my playcount + 1" issue yesterday just after I tried to turn off Match.


Took a while to undo the issue. I've now removed all my devices from Match and am back to "normal".


But from what I can tell, my Match data is locked into the "double playcount + 1" and there ain't no undoing it so ... I think that's it for my Match subscription.


Hello Spotify Premium?

Sep 21, 2012 8:47 AM in response to Luke Johnson

Y'all are using iOS 6 now right? I either had the double playcount thing happen when I was using iOS 5 or nothing was registering. Since I started using the last couple of betas of iOS 6 everything has been syncing. It just takes time. I think it may have something to do with the iCloud backup but I'm not sure. I just know that it works for me now.

Sep 21, 2012 2:26 PM in response to alecp763

Well I decided I'm just going to stick with match for the sole purpose of saving space on my iPad 1 and just enjoy music on my iPad whether it updates play counts or not. Plus for getting the 256K files when available. I'm on 5.01 and I've had iTunes on my work PowerMac G5 on all day showing the "Recently Played" list. To my surprise all of the songs I have listened to since late yesterday afternoon and all day today, just popped up in the window with correct "low" playcounts and Last Played date/time. Granted it hasn't updated but this once, but it must just work in big batches. I'm just going to take Match for what it's worth and not worry so much about the playcounts. I know it can be a bummer though if you rely on smart playlists.

Sep 21, 2012 2:57 PM in response to mrholder

I wonder if anyone using iTunes 10.7 (21) and iOS 6 could confirm that their metadata is NOT being arbitrarily changed by iTunes match? By metadata I mean the song titles, album names, album art, year, and other tags.


I can do without accurate play counts for a while (not forever, Apple) but my main concern is that iTunes Match was arbitrarily (and silently) changing the metadata I had lovingly entered into my library. IMHO these tags should NEVER be changed without the user's consent.


Also I'd like to recommend using LastFM (http://www.last.fm/user/tikilab) and the LastFM2iTunes app (http://www.u-mass.de/lastfm2itunes) to back up your play counts. I've found since the iTunes match problem started they have been a lifesaver (OK, a track count saver)!

Sep 24, 2012 6:25 AM in response to alecp763

iTunes Match used to update the data within 48 hours... Now I've been keeping an eye on one song in particular that I've played about 4 or 5 times from my iphone alone and so far the play count is 2 and no last played data is there at all. The rating as usual is right away. I purchased this song on Thursday and watched it over the weekend and it's only up to 2 counts...


I hope this gets fixed soon...

iTunes Match vs. Play Counts

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