Currently Being ModeratedDec 21, 2011 6:09 AM (in response to ptnik)
Only those who experienced sim card failure know how annoying it is
Currently Being ModeratedDec 21, 2011 6:11 AM (in response to ptnik)
Only those who experienced sim card failure know how annoying it is
Currently Being ModeratedDec 21, 2011 7:49 AM (in response to jose geraldo)
I tried yesterday night the Jannee/Jose Geraldo protocol. The phone work well for a few hours, but, again an "Invalid SIM" wake up today! We´re still trying, but sadly, I´m really thinking in change to Android. Come on Apple!
Currently Being ModeratedDec 22, 2011 12:16 AM (in response to arturofromméxico)
Did you turn off cellular data(3G) also not using phone lock? Also key is that you change pin nr to 2 different pin# then back to your favorite nr. Can do it in succession like so... Enable sim pin, put in pin if was on before, enter favorite pin if it was never enabled(in this case reboot hold home and power at same time till phone is off, keep holding buttons till you see apple logo). Then go to sim pin setup, change nr, wait 30 seconds to minute, change number again, wait again, then change back to your favorite pin nr as it was after reboot. Enjoy... Location services don't seem to kill sim reader, leaving 3G on does, on Sunday I will enable 3G to check emails then turn it off as soon as that's done.
Let you all know results. So far phone was on all day yesterday, plugged in for charge at 40% and this morning no faults:-) turned off flight mode at work, full bars no 3G remember so no data today. Used tomtom it works with no net and have no issues sim is still live phone works get SMS and all calls and can call too, no fail. It's now 7:00pm and....still working!!!! Battery is below 77% now usually it fails just checked SMS and voice mail all passed phone now at 71% ps geraldo got it wrong puk code not needed ok I forgot a sim pin and that's why I used puk just to unlock my locked sim.. This protocol must be adhered to no variations. I notice that using sim pin does increase drain on battery even in flight mode! That's a surprise but it does tell me that sim reader uses too much power for simpin on but leaving pin off seems to disallow power spikes thus invalid sim occurs. This is an educated deduction based on all my tests ok, may be other reason why if sim pin off causes invalid sim. The protocol I mention above does seem stable enough, signal strength does drop to 1 or no bars it does leave provider name on though, never goes SOS or invalid sim though. I'm not calling this a fix but rather a stable solution which I hope stays that way but cannot be certain ok. If apple does not release new update by end January and it stays stable then I will feel confident with solution, and any way if it gets to this Sunday ok then it's looking neat enough.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 22, 2011 2:59 AM (in response to arturofromméxico)
Still working, me thinks more and more that turning on sim pin and change pin3x resolves it but we all know time will tell. Battery does drain quicker too, but iPhone 4s can defiantly do a light loaded 24 hrs and heavy loaded 12 hrs not too bad for all stuff it can do. I believe though that apple should do its best to deliver on best battery life as they can in all products. The apps are efficient indeed uses less power. Also believe that if apple keeps using the end user as test platforms their customers will flee, most users hate to debug hardware that is taken for granted to work well in this digital era. People buy apple for design security and it just works oh forgot intuitive ease of use. And the fix for battery use would be case with built in battery to boost autonomy from power point. So try that protocol it works but for how long I do not know. Try if you will to engage 3G for data transfer then turn off 3G as soon as data is retrieved. But be scientific one change then observe then draw conclusions---> to a workaround. That's what I call the protocol. Jannee's invalid sim workaround. All you guys test it please want to know if it really works across the board... Cause it may be some apps screw it up via 3G net. The bigger the sample size the better the science. Post your findings cause we need observations to draw conclusions.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 22, 2011 5:44 AM (in response to jannee)
Still working. Now it's 12:30 and have 59% batt looking good. Will charge up and see if in morning it's still ok like this morning. Sad that we must keep cell data off, defeats most of smart phone features, not so sharp eh. Unless on wifi net. So now it's a waiting game... Just thinking...this unit has Samsung chips... Maybe with legal proceedings between both parties pushed Samsung to lay random Trojan horse in h/ware... Just a devious thought that popped up... Hope it's just my imagining. Hope it's just iOS tripping off... That's most likely scenario and I still bet on it more than the conspiracy theory, but this world is a mad one with some real loons out there; even in high places... Goodnight and hope no sim fault;-)
Currently Being ModeratedDec 23, 2011 12:39 AM (in response to arturofromméxico)
Ok here it is now...working great, came off charger at 8:30 am and still good now at 7:19 pm. It has past the max time between failures by 2x now so looking real good. Possible stable work around. It has more bars than my iPad 1! Make sure you follow protocol to the t. It's stable for 2+ days now and I cannot believe that I trusted it today, it did not let me down..so happy so far. This Sunday I will switch on 3G just to get info/data that I need then switch off 3G ( we all know it as cell data on or off. Not actually like iPhone 3s. Just switched iPad to edge only and it has same nr of bars as iPhone 4s does looks like it works.
Turn off cell data switch reboot. Hold power and home thru switch off until see apple logo
Turn on sim pin then change pin 3x then make sure that cell data switch is off.
That's it no crazy stuff. See my report on Sunday night of cell data test results.
Note I observe a max of 6hrs inbetween sim failures. Quicker with cell data on, like 2-4 hrs but all this might be variable. Take note of your device failure times and calculate intervals you will see consistency. Also with use of various net dependant apps it shortens interval period. I think it's related to battery algorithm and app CPU/net demand. Removing net demand does seemingly stabilize things in phone department. So STILL NO SIM FAULT it's 7:40 pm now dinner.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 23, 2011 2:27 AM (in response to ptnik)
While I haven't seen a Invalid SIM yet (since the change to a new microSIM), a friend acting as reference that also got a exact same microSIM but didn't update to the latest 5.0.1 (9A406) got his first Invalid SIM error again, after nearly a week with new sim and without problems.
He'll be updating to 9A406 to see if it helps...
So far, mine is holding steady... But I'm not really confident Apple has tracked down the actual issue, in order to fix it once and for all.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 24, 2011 8:33 AM (in response to cygn)
Running without 3G data now just as a test. Read my notes 3G kills it if left on. Tomorrow testing 3G turn on long enough to get data I need then off the 3G. Will run this intermittent test of 3G for three days then report. Ever since I did my work around its stable not on invalid sim yet. Well over 4days now plenty overnight charges and discharge to 20%. Looks good. Even took sim out and put it back because telco was enabling mms service. Still stable, many hours later(9). So turn 3G on only when retrieve email or Facebook etc, try not to leave 3G on idle for more than 15 mins.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 25, 2011 3:28 AM (in response to ptnik)
Hey dis is Prashant, the Indian boy!! I had the same problem of INVALID SIM,SIM FAILURE n I was anable to make call frequently....
Now ma iphone is working better...I just updated iphone software by 5.0.1 9A406 n dats it!!! No prblm at all
Currently Being ModeratedDec 25, 2011 4:14 AM (in response to ptnik)
unfortunately the sim pin no. hack with mobile data off has not worked for me - it did seem to extend the time between failures, but has not solved the problem.
am now trying another sim.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 25, 2011 5:27 AM (in response to ptnik)
swapped sim didn't help - in fact it failed faster
may be a new phone to try next --
anyone care to share if they've had a phone swapped - was that easy to do - go into any apple store and say "sim failure; tried the following"
and do you go in with your phone wiped?
has anyone whose swapped for a new phone had the problem recur?
Currently Being ModeratedDec 25, 2011 5:33 AM (in response to cygn)
Here is more info...
1. Cygn bet wifi was on. I learned today after testing... It fails if wifi or 3G data is on, left on.
2. Use simpin and change sim code 3. Use 3G/wifi temporary then switch off it should exhibit stability.
3. A reboot(hold power and home till see apple) every 2nd day seems to guarantee stability.
But I'm sick of all this an apple better right it soon. Getting battery case to keep it lit. Merry Christmas y'all have a happy new year. We maybe should have waited for the IPhone 5 eh... Giggle, we got burned, bought mine outright. Happy seasons ok.