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The Austin T Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Trying to play Elder Scrolls: Oblivion on my MBP on windows 7 through bootcamp. It gets to the main menu (in a small window in the middle of the screen) and then when I click "Play", the game crashes. Anyone experience this or have any suggestions? Thanks!


MacBook Pro
  • The Austin T Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    computer is a 2011 model

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,775 points)

    Elder Scrolls on a Windows machine?

     

    You may be in the wrong place, contact the manufacturers of the game you are playing, or the operating system it runs on, Apple have nothing to do with either, sorry.

  • The Austin T Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Facepalm...

     

    MBP = MacBook Pro

     

    A context clue would have been the whole bootcamp thing. Is that not an Apple product for sole use on Apple machines?

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,775 points)

    The machine yes, other peoples software no, but I'll leave it up to you where to ask.

     

    Goodbye

  • The Austin T Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    How about the bootcamp forum, where you ask questions about the software that allows you to run windows on your apple machine?

  • Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,525 points)

    The Austin T wrote:

     

    How about the bootcamp forum, where you ask questions about the software that allows you to run windows on your apple machine?

    Pardon my bluntness, but what Csound means is that the Boot Camp forum is for issues with installing Windows on your Mac or related issues.  Your issue is NOT with Windows, nor with Mac, it is with the game in Steam.  So you need to ask over at Steam.  Your issue is no different than a person with a Dell PC running Windows saying Elder Scroll crashes.  It's not a a Dell issue, it's not a Windows issue, so don't call Dell or Microsoft.  It's an Elder Scroll problem so go to Steam and talk to the other Steam users.

     

    http://store.steampowered.com/forums/

  • The Austin T Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Game runs fine on my PC, I had a feeling that the problem had something to do with drivers so I asked on here. It is a problem involving how my HARDWARE INTERACTS WITH WINDOWS 7 THROUGH BOOTCAMP. I have seen plenty of other threads on here pertaining to problems arising in windows 7 through bootcamp that would not arise otherwise. The forum is not called "Bootcamp Installation"; there is a manual for that. All of my games for steam work on OSX on my macbook. They all work on my PC with windows 7. They do not work with windows 7 on my macbook pro running under bootcamp. I do not need for you to explain to me where my problem is; I am a software developer. I was asking on here because it is a forum full of people who use mac products with book camp. GOT IT?

  • ReMacs Level 2 Level 2 (295 points)

    I've been running Bethesda/IGN/Steam Skyrim game for less than a week in Mac Pro Bootcamp.

     

     

    Do not want Gaming/Steam online interactivity for security reasons. Steam sent message to users Nov 10th that their servers were hacked/compromised on Nov. 6th, that users should change passwords, possibly encrypted credit card info. was compromised. Will add screen shot of their message hoping that attach will allow view.

     

     

    If I ever owned a credit card the last place for using one would be the internet.

     

     

    Skyrim works fine internet disabled/Offline Steam firewall entries disabled mode. Maybe reinstalling it would correct problem for you with Oblivion. I don't know what it means having same Steam game on your PC and Bootcamp.

     

     

    I showed the game DVD to Lion & found that there was Dmg which when installed gave me Steam, no game on Mac side for no good reason. I removed it but account shows that I have it on the Mac side as well.SteamSecurity.jpg

  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (60,880 points)

    There use to be sub-forums, those are gone with the new "Communities"

     

    I have a lot of peeves with "95%" support for "Windows on Mac" to replace the name Boot Camp which is and should be reserved for :

     

    Boot Camp Assistant - to assist in partition and install

    Boot Camp drivers - as the name implies

     

    GPT supports an MBR, there is always a 'protective MBR' already.

    BCA just expands on that slightly.

     

    There is no running the OS under anything, unless talking about VMs and Guest OS.

    Windows runs native, pure and simple but without the BIOS which was replaced with UEFI, which is now found being supported on some newer PC motherboads, often as a hybrid.

     

    UEFI and GPT go hand in hand. Booting GPT requires EFI and Intel/MS and Apple officially adopted a UEFI standard late 2007 for 64-bit kernel boot mode, for MS starting with Vista SP1 64-bit in 2008. The Mac Pro Early 2008 was the first Mac with full 64-bit UEFI too.

     

    Apple motherboard drivers? peeve.

    Installing graphic drivers: seems like it slowly is getting easier and better to install those now, may require Boot Camp driver 4.01+.

    Just that Apple chargers $30 for the drivers. peeve.

    Boot Camp 3.0 - came out Aug 2009 barely built while Windows 7 RC was winding down and 'frozen' but not RTM even - and why "3.1 req'd for Windows 7" but did they replace 3.0? No. Can you install one time only 3.3 as a full set? No.

    So the drivers are locked into Lion and Boot Camp Assistant.

     

    Macs rely on SMC/EFI for thermal management of fans which does not work when the MAC is running Windows.

     

    And that is what people seem to mean with "Mac running under Boot Camp" which implies something else.

     

    That is why heat and cooling are more of an issue and a real problem even now running Windows.

     

    SmartFan is a nice Windows utility and I kept hoping for years it would be possible and "ported" to work on Mac motherboards, but never seen it. "InputRemapper" though would allow settng fan speed on MacBook and Mac Pro, was created in May 2007 and to my knowledge is the only thing that helps the fans but has not been updated since - maybe it doesn't need to

     

    Any software though is 3rd party and while some basics, really there has been little of the in depth discussion.

     

    Apple has a disclaimer of how far their support for Windows goes. The old AD forums had install, network, applications, Bonjour and Apple SU (both are still present).

     

    Games, Office for Windows, no.

     

    3rd party audio, network and graphic drivers, yes.

     

    HFS drivers, and programs to backup or image and restore Windows, yes. Unique to Macs and PC programs don't usually work so assume no unless otherwise and that is unique.

     

    Other than Windows always needs drivers for motherboad support, to support chipsets and such, a Mac can be 100% Windows only.

     

    Shorter battery life, runs hotter, BT keyboards and wifi are more likely to be issues. And can't boot into BIOS to adjust hardware. And no F10 (or 12 or whatever) to bring up, but there is Alt boot manager. Apple adds OSswitcher and TimeSynch to handle those two services.

     

    No customized "speedfan"

    Programs and drivers that try to detect the hardware or read from (BIOS) firmware

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,775 points)

    The Austin T wrote:

     

    Game runs fine on my PC, I had a feeling that the problem had something to do with drivers so I asked on here. It is a problem involving how my HARDWARE INTERACTS WITH WINDOWS 7 THROUGH BOOTCAMP. I have seen plenty of other threads on here pertaining to problems arising in windows 7 through bootcamp that would not arise otherwise. The forum is not called "Bootcamp Installation"; there is a manual for that. All of my games for steam work on OSX on my macbook. They all work on my PC with windows 7. They do not work with windows 7 on my macbook pro running under bootcamp. I do not need for you to explain to me where my problem is; I am a software developer. I was asking on here because it is a forum full of people who use mac products with book camp. GOT IT?

    What a bad attitude you have.

  • The Austin T Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Clever response. I can tell you're pretty sharp.

  • Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,525 points)

    The Austin T wrote:

     

    Game runs fine on my PC, I had a feeling that the problem had something to do with drivers so I asked on here. It is a problem involving how my HARDWARE INTERACTS WITH WINDOWS 7 THROUGH BOOTCAMP. I have seen plenty of other threads on here pertaining to problems arising in windows 7 through bootcamp that would not arise otherwise. The forum is not called "Bootcamp Installation"; there is a manual for that. All of my games for steam work on OSX on my macbook. They all work on my PC with windows 7. They do not work with windows 7 on my macbook pro running under bootcamp. I do not need for you to explain to me where my problem is; I am a software developer. I was asking on here because it is a forum full of people who use mac products with book camp. GOT IT?

    Despite the rudeness of the post, I will ask a question on a piece of (seemingly obvious) info that you haven't provided: did you even ask other Steam users?  (In the Steam forums or elsewhere.)  I would imagine a reasonable software developer should know to ask other Steam users since it is a Steam issue and not "Windows crashing when running IE", for example.

     

    I suppose my fault was to assume you would realize that fellow Steam users would know more about Steam game issues and that there would be Steam users that use Macs and that they would be more likely hanging out on the Steam forums.  But maybe the Steam user community is just not as friendly (if this thread is any indication.)  In any case, I bow out of the conversation as I have already provided a suggestion and the vinegar taste of this thread doesn't suite my palate.

  • The Austin T Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hmm, what you said was basically a summary of your last post. Did you see the capitalized letters and become afraid to read my post? Because I explained why I didn't go to Steam. Regardless, if you don't have the answer simply don't post; don't try to talk down to me and then run away from your mistake. Only on the Apple forums, I suppose.

  • petoveritas Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm with you Mr. T, I don't understand why these people are responding to your post at length and yet adding zero value. I am having a similar issue trying to run Sword of the Stars II on 64 bit Win 7 home premium SP1 installed on my late 2011 MBP. I read a bunch of posts that suggested to just to reinstall... I installed some other games and steam worked just fine so I hope that reinstalling will fix my issue... then again, I read some other posts that SOTS 2 was having major launch issues and I may just try to get a refund if reinstalling it doesn't work.

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