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iTunes Match - download all songs?

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  • Mindplay Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Aug 20, 2012 9:28 AM (in response to Chris R.)

    Relax Chris, San Francisco is very much more advanced than Italy is, and Cupertino is much closer to you, so the topic of innovation should be more familiar to you I guess this is pretty much the same of what happened when Apple cut away floppies from computers. We live indeed in the age of access and the Internet... just have a look out there. Of course, this doesn't mean it's fully developed and stuff, but I don't think that iTunes Match might have much sense if not embracing this kind of scenario.

     

    Then, I just think that maybe this kind of service doesn't fit your needs, but this doesn't mean that the system should bend towards lesser then ideal situations just because your internet connection is spotty... Even though I recognize that your situation is unfortunate from this point of view.

     

    Anyway, I believe you are just not grasping the whole direction of cloud computing and where this is bringing people in terms of societies at large. To me it looks like you a re just adapting new concepts to old schemes, but that's just me

     

    Then I really hope that your overall connectivity will get a lot better and inesxpensive really soon!

    Cheers

     

    P.S.: Oh... forgot... It's not true Apple doesn't allow local syncing. You are free to choose the old way syncing works... At least I can... Noone forces you to subscribe to Match and use it. Why on earth would you need to have all of your huge library there in your pocket and in your tablet and in your desk and wherever at any given moment in time? Do you really need EVERYTHING? The service, at least as I understood it, is developed to get away with this urge of possession at all costs... Do you want to listen to some nice music right now? Sure you can, you know that song it's in your library and iTunes will let you retrieve what you NEED in that moment from the cloud to the device you have at disposal. Simple as that.

  • stevomax Calculating status...
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    Aug 22, 2012 2:27 PM (in response to Mindplay)

    Hey folks, I'm a match novice (I think it's great btw) & have a few questions. When I add music to my iTunes on my pc - will it then be available on my iPad/iPhone automatically? And if iTunes match is not activated on a device am I still able to access the newly added track/s? Thanks in advance for any help!

  • Mindplay Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Aug 22, 2012 2:47 PM (in response to stevomax)

    Obviously you need to activate the particular device on which you intend to use the cloud functionality, but then the answer is yes, your music is available for local download or streaming.

  • Michael Allbritton Level 6 Level 6 (16,140 points)
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    Aug 22, 2012 11:51 PM (in response to stevomax)

    stevomax wrote:

     

    Hey folks, I'm a match novice (I think it's great btw) & have a few questions. When I add music to my iTunes on my pc - will it then be available on my iPad/iPhone automatically?

    Yes. There may be a slight delay of the songs need to be uploaded but, in general, the new tracks will be added to iTM very quickly.

     

    stevomax wrote:

     

    And if iTunes match is not activated on a device am I still able to access the newly added track/s? Thanks in advance for any help!

    No. iTunes Match must be enabled on any iOS device for the service to be available to that device. Once it is enabled then, yes, the music will be available to you on the device.

     

    BTW, iTunes Match does not presently stream to iOS devices. All music is downloaded.

  • jonneg Calculating status...
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    Aug 26, 2012 11:14 PM (in response to Joseph Delaney)

    Here's the answer:

     

    You probably have most of your physical musical collection on your primary computer, right? so the question you are really asking is: can't i have my physical copy on my iphone, so i don't have to worry about DLing from the cloud?

     

    The answer is yes, you can. It is basically in the answer above. The way to do it is this:

    1) starting on the iphone, go to settings > music and turn off itunes match.

    2) for good measure, sign in to your apple itunes account on your computer, go to manage devices and turn off match for your iphone.

    3) close itunes

    4) restart your iphone, ideally unplugged from the computer

    5) plug it back into your computer

    6) Open the iphone sync screen and look under the music tab. you should see the old "sync music" check box from standard versions of itunes

    7) choose whichever music in your collection you want to physically sync, or just check 'all' if that's what you want. I bought a 64G iphone so i would have plenty of room for my music, so that's what i was expecting to do.

    8) sync your iphone

    9) as i write this it is DLing the first 1000 of my tracks. with 6700, this is going to take awhile...

    10) After you finish this, if you want, you can turn match back on and it will allow wireless sync of new stuff in your library. of course, you will be back to DLing it one song at a time from the cloud...

     

    hope that helps...

  • hcvmia Calculating status...
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    Sep 9, 2012 6:25 PM (in response to cjm56)

    I have an easy answer.  Create a new play list call it whatever you want.  Call it All songs.  Add all songs in your your library to the playlist.  If you have another computer with iTunes Match, click on the iClloud icon and it will download all your songs!  Same with iPhone.  Try it.

  • Citsur86 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 20, 2012 9:33 AM (in response to cjm56)

    I created a playlist, added all songs, and hit download all on the bottom.  I have around 4,500 songs and a super fast internet connection.  However, each song takes about 30 seconds to download, and there is a 30 second to 1 minute pause between songs starting to download - only 1 song is downloading at a time.  I remember in the past multiple songs (a lot if i remember right) would download at the same time and it didn't take this long.  Anyone know why this is so slow?!

     

    BTW - the reason im downloading all of this onto my iPhone is because my car system will not play any song from my iPhone that is not actually downloaded.  The iPod App is disabled when I plug it in and I am forced to use the car interface to play songs.  iTunes Match non-downloaded songs will not showup for me to play and because i like to shuffl my entire collection often, I like having them all local.

  • Joseph Delaney Level 3 Level 3 (515 points)
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    Sep 20, 2012 10:09 AM (in response to Citsur86)

    I've never seen more than 3 or so songs download at once (after purchasing), and since they share bandwidth those 3 songs each download at 1/3 the speed of one song by itself (approximately - there are other variables that affect speed). The delay occurs during the "processing" step - I don't know what it's doing at that point, but it is, unfortunately, normal.

     

    Since iTunes Match is specifically optimized for listening - not bulk downloading - I think the limit to one song at a time is deliberate. You can't listen to more than one at a time, so that kind of makes sense.

     

    You'll get faster results by turning off iTunes Match (in the "Settings" app, tap "Music"), syncing via USB cable with iTunes on your computer, then turning iTunes Match back on. The files that sync over USB will still be there after you turn iTunes Match back on.

  • Citsur86 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 20, 2012 10:19 AM (in response to Joseph Delaney)

    You're right - if I am going to sync my entire library, I guess there is no point in using iTunes Match on my phone.  For my iPad it makes sense as I do not use it in the car and therefore can play any song i want without it being downloaded to the device... Thanks

  • Joseph Delaney Level 3 Level 3 (515 points)
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    Sep 20, 2012 10:25 AM (in response to Citsur86)

    Actually I wasn't suggesting turning it off permanently - just during the sync (but you are correct - if you're syncing all your music, there's not much point in turning iTunes Match back on). I typically just sync a few select, large playlists, then turn Match back on, so I end up with a large selection of "local" files but still full access to  the rest via the cloud.

     

    But I also thought of another solution that would work well -- buy a new car.

  • Citsur86 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 20, 2012 10:30 AM (in response to Joseph Delaney)

    You would think the Acura ZDX, my car, would have a better tech package right...?

     

    Anyways - I would assume most cars Music-from-iPod-Playing interfaces are not capable of showing iTunes Match (non local) music in their native car application?  Not sure though.  Anyways, will turning the ITunes Match back on after the iTunes sync retain that music?

  • Joseph Delaney Level 3 Level 3 (515 points)
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    Sep 20, 2012 11:33 AM (in response to Citsur86)

    Anyways, will turning the ITunes Match back on after the iTunes sync retain that music?

     

    Absolutely, yes.

     

    It displays a warning that the "music library" will be replaced - that's a little misleading, since the "library" is just the list of songs (it replaces the list of local songs with the list of all songs, and the list of all songs naturally includes the local songs). The actual mp3 or m4a files all stay exactly where they are.

  • anmldr Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 23, 2012 8:22 PM (in response to Citsur86)

    Where is this download all button in iTunes on my Mac?  I have selected all and right clicked and it is not there in the contextual menu as some have suggested.  I have selected all and scrolled to the bottom of the list and there is no button that I see.  I have gone into album view and selected all and scrolled to the bottom and there is no button that I see.  Where is this mysterious button? 

     

    I have created a playlist with all of the songs that have a status of "matched", selected all of them and have looked for the download all button.  I can't find it.

     

    Linda

  • Michael Allbritton Level 6 Level 6 (16,140 points)
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    Sep 23, 2012 8:24 PM (in response to anmldr)

    Linda, what specifically are you trying to do? Download music in iTunes on your computer? If so you must first delete the existing tracks in the iTunes library. Then you will be able to download.

  • anmldr Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Sep 24, 2012 6:32 AM (in response to Michael Allbritton)

    Yes I was wanting to download all matched music on my computer.  Everything that I have is mp3.  I wanted to do as they advertize and get the best possible version of the songs.  Rather than just storing them in iTunes Match in the cloud, I wanted a copy of my own...just in case there is a problem in the future.

     

    Thanks, that makes perfect sense about needing to delete the old copies.

     

    Linda

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