You can make a difference in the Apple Support Community!

When you sign up with your Apple Account, you can provide valuable feedback to other community members by upvoting helpful replies and User Tips.

💡 Did you know?

⏺ If you can't accept iCloud Terms and Conditions... Learn more >

⏺ If you don't see your iCloud notes in the Notes app... Learn more >

Looks like no one’s replied in a while. To start the conversation again, simply ask a new question.

megakai132 Author

Level 1

0 points

iPhone 4s Battery problem maybe found!!

hello to all!!

I think i Found the problem of the iPhone 4s battery!

i had phantom usage for quite a bit and there was always a blue light above the screen ( you can only see it trough isight or others cameras! )

now i didnt have phantom use and the blue light was gone

i turend on siri Speaking because i was curius an then i could see the light again !

now i turend off siri speaking and the light is still on !?

i think this is the problem !

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7), Boots up very slow

Posted on Nov 19, 2011 11:25 AM

Top-ranking reply

spyder2004

Level 1

13 points

Posted on Nov 19, 2011 11:33 AM

sorry this is really not helpful. How about a blow up of an arrow or somthing to show people where you are seeing this light?

Second if you cannot see it with the naked eye but do see it through a camera it is likely infrared it is probaly the sensor that tells your phone when its against your face to turn on and off the screen when you are talking.

Me, I turend off all the things suggested and I am at 40% power from a charge more than 31 hours since my last charge which I am happy with as it is on par with my old phone.

You should also let folks know that English is not your first language. It's cool we can understand just the spelling is a bit rough.

View in context

101 replies

Nov 19, 2011 1:36 PM in response to megakai132

I tried this fix first on the first black 4s I had. Settings/General/Siri/Raise to Speak = OFF.

Did not solve the issue.

Got a new WHITE 4s, same everything else and it did not stop the battery drain.

The battery issue is AFFECTED by ANYTHING that has a draw on it, expecially proximity sensors. Turning this off might HELP, but it is not the solution.

The main problem might be: TWO antenna assemblies on at all times when there only used to be one.

The other issues could be defective antenna assemblies that are drwaing more power than deisnged to, Apple never upgraded the battery to handle more draw with a new chip and both antennas.

Worst case: defective antennas and defective/underpowered batteries

megakai132 Author

Level 1

0 points

Nov 19, 2011 1:34 PM in response to Galaxyboyx

why should i?:D

megakai132 Author

Level 1

0 points

Nov 19, 2011 1:37 PM in response to MAC-ASSIST

i didnt say this is the whole fix !

and you cannot rechare the phone in so short period!

FIRST : disable the bootom siri option !

SECOND : Let battery drain down until iphone turns off ( best way brightness full, camera on )

THIRD: let it turend off for 5 min then plugg in to charge!( fully charge)

megakai132 Author

Level 1

0 points

Nov 19, 2011 1:39 PM in response to megakai132

your battery isnt going to be 100 times better but i really could feel the difiference!!!

megakai132 Author

Level 1

0 points

Nov 19, 2011 1:40 PM in response to megakai132

this infrared also causes phantom usage! (by me)

Nov 19, 2011 1:41 PM in response to MAC-ASSIST

Here is what I really think happened (and granted, I have not opened up the phone to see what is what yet):

-Apple decides to put in TWO different cell technologies into a phone to save manufacturing costs that only had one or the other in the past: CDMA and GSM.

-This is the major difference other than the main chip from the 4 and the 4 is not half as bad as the 4S in battery problems...my old 4 is still doing quite well not being on a charger for three days.

-The battery is now powering TWO different cell antennas.

-If the battery was exactly the same as the 4, then this is our drainage issue and Apple's only solution will be to find a software switch to turn one of the antennas OFF.

-Even if they incorporated a new battery with a somewhat higher capacity, it was not strong enough to handle the draw for two antenna aseemblies.

I am on AT&T, why do I need the other antenna on at all, ever? Verizon's customers may need it for travel.

-The other options are worse

-they have a defective antenna assembly that is quickly draining batteries on most phones around the world

-they have a massive set of batteries that are defective

-or both

Now some more illogic from Apple: If it was software, why are they instantly replacing so many phones? Is this just to appease us and/or to end with the perfect excuse to remanufacture phones for Applecare replacement as this looks like its going to be replaced, a lot.

megakai132 Author

Level 1

0 points

Nov 19, 2011 1:44 PM in response to MAC-ASSIST

COOMMEE DOWNNN!!!

we are all sitting in the same boat ! if apple doesnt give us a new iphone ore something else (or a good software update ) they will loose 10 % of ther iphone buyers at least !

i know they know that they have to do something!!!

Nov 19, 2011 1:46 PM in response to megakai132

This will only reduce the drain on the battery: if the raise to speak option is turned off and the phone does not kill the process, it will be killed when you let the battery die out completely.

That is what's happening, and since the process is now off from letting the phone die, it is not back on again when you charge it up.

megakai132 Author

Level 1

0 points

Nov 19, 2011 1:49 PM in response to MAC-ASSIST

thats what is figured out but if you turn that option on again its on until next full recharge:D

Nov 19, 2011 1:57 PM in response to megakai132

I still think its the dual antenna and the battery can't handle the dual draw.

They will have to find a software swtich to turn off one of them.

megakai132 Author

Level 1

0 points

Nov 19, 2011 2:00 PM in response to MAC-ASSIST

yes that was one of my guesses to ..... remember the keynote? they didnt say that it has a new battery... only that the hardware and software team have got a great battery life ....

megakai132 Author

Level 1

0 points

Nov 19, 2011 2:13 PM in response to megakai132

i just want to help other people and myself ....

megakai132 Author

Level 1

0 points

Nov 19, 2011 2:18 PM in response to megakai132

here is the proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqcwVGW_-n0

Nov 19, 2011 2:34 PM in response to megakai132

Guys, you really are getting silly.

Snesor on alert when as long as the screen is activated, tthe IR sensor unless you’re a snake, fish, mosquito, or cheap digital camera).

This is normal.

Thanks and good luck.

Nov 19, 2011 2:37 PM in response to megakai132

Wow. I also managed to reproduce the problem. Here is what I did. I noticed the purple light with a seperate camera. Then I turned off Siri altogether but the light was still on. Then I did a hard reset and the purple light is now off. Fingers crossed. Also, I noticed that my bluetooth setting was on but I never use it and the bluetooth indicator was never on the status bar section(next to battery percentage on home screen).

iPhone 4s Battery problem maybe found!!