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Question about nodes, what are they, why weren't unused ones erased, why is my node map invalid?

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What is this crap in Disk Utility?


What is the freaking point of a journalled filesystem if it's useless at...it's job / function for existing / fixing it's files and/or system of filing them? What a joke.


Why can't I repair or verify disk permissions?


Why does Apple know nothing about Apple products.

MacBook Air, Mac OS X (10.7.2)

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 4:11 AM

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Posted on Nov 20, 2011 1:54 PM

To fix those errors, boot with your Recovery HD, launch Disk Utility, and repair the boot volume. Once that's successfully finished, restart and repair the permissions. If you can't repair the disk using DU, get something stronger, such as DiskWarrior or Tech Tools Pro.


For info on disk nodes, peruse the hits from a google search for hard disk node structure.

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Nov 20, 2011 1:54 PM in response to goscuter1

To fix those errors, boot with your Recovery HD, launch Disk Utility, and repair the boot volume. Once that's successfully finished, restart and repair the permissions. If you can't repair the disk using DU, get something stronger, such as DiskWarrior or Tech Tools Pro.


For info on disk nodes, peruse the hits from a google search for hard disk node structure.

Nov 24, 2011 6:02 AM in response to baltwo

baltwo wrote:


To fix those errors, boot with your Recovery HD, launch Disk Utility, and repair the boot volume. Once that's successfully finished, restart and repair the permissions. If you can't repair the disk using DU, get something stronger, such as DiskWarrior or Tech Tools Pro.


For info on disk nodes, peruse the hits from a google search for hard disk node structure.

Thanks for responding baltwo, inspite of my frustrated tone there. Unfortunately the write-protected boot volume that comes off the servers delivers stuff like this. I've been Google searching for 10 months and bleeding eyes give me two emotions:
1. Sadness, at how much I've been lied to - I wonder what they get for it
2. Frustration, at directions to achieve solutions / resolutions - that simply don't work. Command lines give more error messages, should I Google them as well? Obv i have.


And the ride begins again at 1. I'll get diskwarrior.

Nov 28, 2011 10:52 PM in response to baltwo

goscuter1 wrote:


If you can't repair the disk using DU, get something stronger, such as DiskWarrior or Tech Tools Pro.


For info on disk nodes, peruse the hits from a google search for hard disk node structure.

Thanks for responding baltwo, inspite of my frustrated tone there. Unfortunately the write-protected boot volume that comes off the servers delivers stuff like this. I've been Google searching for 10 months and bleeding eyes give me two emotions:
1. Sadness, at how much I've been lied to - I wonder what they get for it
2. Frustration, at directions to achieve solutions / resolutions - that simply don't work. Command lines give more error messages, should I Google them as well? Obv i have.


And the ride begins again at 1. I'll get diskwarrior.


I went to get DiskWarrior and it's $100 for a software utility. I laughed cause, whatever. If it worked a year ago, and I bought it, I could buy 1000 Disk Warriors and still be in the black. I've only bought maybe 200 utilities. And paid for the free ones, dearly - I suspect.


I was about to buy it obviously, but my system crashed before I could burn more cash. I put it on my list of "Online Things to Do" for when I got online.


I dunno. I'm not posting here to bag Disk Warrior, at least they're honest. But I can't see how this could possibly be worth $5, or even the hassle.



DiskWarrior recovers your files including your photos, music and videos.
DiskWarrior is the safest, most technologically advanced, most powerful utility to eliminate directory damage and recover your files, folders and documents.



I want to do the opposite, to data.



DiskWarrior cures those cryptic errors reported by Disk Utility.
Messages from your Mac such as "Invalid node structure" and "Keys out of order" may seem mysterious or even scary but DiskWarrior fixes these problems and many, many more.



Interesting. And the reason I was going to buy it. But I note their claim is a little cryptic. I have unexplained keymapping that Apple decline to explain. And if I understand nodes correctly, Disk Warrior will be in use very often. I'd prefer to find a more elegant solution, to corruption.


DiskWarrior uses a different approach to disk directory repair than other programs.

DiskWarrior is not a disk repair program in the conventional sense. Instead of patching the original directory, it uses a patent-pending technology to quickly build a new replacement directory using data recovered from the original directory, thereby recovering files, folders and documents that you thought were lost and that no other program could recover.



No, I don't think I want that. My systems fill up with millions of files due to DDoS which is very much, Distributed. Around. I don't want to recover anything. I just can't afford to keep buying new systems which last a day, or less. Yes, it's quite the spot - I get that. It could very well kill me in the not-too-distant future. But then I've read the Terms & Conditions for this forum after - truthfully - I mean, honestly - breaking them, so I'm probably not being 'melodramatic'.


DiskWarrior is the only product that finds all of your data.

Its patent-pending method always results in a perfectly rebuilt directory without any errors and that contains all of your file and folder data.


This is an interesting claim because I have millions of errors, and I post less than 0.1% of them. I wonder how they define filesystem "errors".

DiskWarrior is the highest rated and wins more awards.

The reviews are in! See what the press is already saying about the new DiskWarrior 4.


I read a thread about hidden Directory nodes on this forum where the OP and the Helpful Responder had a discussion ENTIRELY exclusive to his attempt to hide the log file telling him about them. You'll be happy to know, the thread had a Disney ending. I celebrated by vomiting up.

Can you afford to waste your hard-earned money on any other utility?

You can try other utilities but you'll probably end up needing DiskWarrior to recover your data.You'll save money buying DiskWarrior first.


I have literally no doubt this is true. And I suspect I'd be in much the same spot right now, starts with SCR and ends with EWWed. Because...


While started from the DiskWarrior DVD, you cannot repair the permissions of a Mac OS X 10.5 through 10.7 startup disk.


lol. But not really. Not really, because no lame excuses given. No excuses given, at all. I think I know what that means.





DiskWarrior is not a disk repair program in the conventional sense. It does not attempt to solve all of the possible problems that can occur with a disk. It specializes in eliminating directory errors - the most common problems Mac OS users have with their disks.
It fixes any problem with master directory blocks and alternate master directory blocks (HFS), volume headers and alternate volume headers (HFS Plus), volume bitmaps, catalog trees, and extents trees.


Seriously?


Again, I have to express my 'confusion' about what possible purpose is served - as in what is the freaking POINT! - of having a journaled file system, that 'seems' to only create errors and cannot keep it's files in any kind of functional or systemized fashion, or keep its operating system operational. It kinda makes me want to scream, actually - but I understand Mac OS users clearly aren't phased. They probably think it's their problem to solve.


lol I give up. All of the above was just stuff I noticed trying to find the sentence that makes everything else redundant. On the website last week - but heck if I can find it now - was the bland statement that


Disk Warrior cannot be expected to function on an encrypted or networked filesystem.


Nine months ago, I cussed out some 'Anti'-malware scammers (ESET or TrendMicro or they're all the same) because they attempted to ridicule my surprise that they would be crooks who claim they can do a thing they cannot - possibly - hope to do; namely, be 'competitive' against malware writers who've heard of encryption.


Since that day, I've been asking every crook in this industry (obviously, I didn't know they were crooks when I was giving them money - otherwise associating with them) how they have the secret no one else has. Every utility, every claim, all a ridiculous joke when Linux commands are coded to be corrupted. Oh, I'm not talking about distribution scripting, I'm talking about the kernel. Singular.


I could go on an on about why anyone who claims you can 'build' a kernel should be strung, but for example:


The dd command. shred. rsync. cp. They drown you with irrelevant information so that you fail to notice, they're omitting the important information. Like encryption. Disk geometry. Disk 'ownership'. Hidden sectors, chaotic clustering, corruption and nonsense and...


bah. What does anyone care, so long as they can take a picture of their dumb face smiling in front of something impossibly boring and send it to a friend's iPod for joy.

Nov 29, 2011 1:29 AM in response to mulligans missus

mulligans missus wrote:


Well, you didn't do a bad job of it!

It's saved my bacon on these issues a few times.


Good Luck

You would have been impressed with my review of Tech Tools Pro. Unfortunately it was lost because my keyboard mapping is...frustrating.


Suffice it to say that it's SMART to lie and insult imbeciles if you're an OEM. That's what they think anyway. Because it's all about the money, and suffering or making others suffer is how you get...happiness! Ask any OEM and they'll tell you. It's SMART what they're doing, and it's impossibly creepy that people would think SMART is their friend. It doesn't fix anything, although it could and should. It doesn't. It doesn't warn you of anything serious about your geometry or corruption suffered on the drive its supposed to be monitoring. And it's full of hidden functionality and 'proprietary' secrets and corruption and vomit etc.


Did I mention, it doesn't - fix - anything?


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I'm so relieved to hear you've had these issues before - can you confirm that Disk Warrior were being bashful, and that you have - actually - used their utility to good effect on an encrypted hidden virtual partition on a networked drive imposed upon you - which you can't get rid of or even post evidence of? ahem.


If not, please kindly cease and desist from spamming your well wishes all over my threads. You've wished me Good Luck 5 times now and I thank you, but I'll need more than your fake best wishes to survive. I could use some answers to questions I ask and issues I raise; but if you're unwilling / unable to provide those, kindly wish someone else "luck".

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