How can I set up a Mainstage channel strip to recognize coarse detune?

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How can I set up a Mainstage channel strip to recognize coarse detune?

Can anyone clue me in on how to get Mainstage 2 to recognize coarse detune? Right now I have it set up so that a mainstage channel strip recognizes standard pitch bend messages and I can set the pitch bend range of the associated instrument to 12 (the default for the channel strips appears to be 2), and so standard pitch bend works fine. But when the pitch bend messages I'm sending are coarse detune, I'm getting zip...nada...nuttin -- even when I have set the pitch bend range for the instrument on the channel strip set to 12.

I don't want to just offset the pitch by a set amount; I want to use coarse detune to bend the pitch by semitones during a performance. If anyone here has any suggestions or knows how to make this happen, I'd really appreciate your help --

thanks in advance,

Lipp

Posted on Nov 21, 2011 9:40 PM

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CCTM

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Nov 22, 2011 1:03 AM in response to sblipson

sblipson wrote:

(the default for the channel strips appears to be 2), and so standard pitch bend works fine.

Hi

The default bend range is set within the Instrument plugin setting associated with a channel strip.

sblipson wrote:

But when the pitch bend messages I'm sending are coarse detune, I'm getting zip...nada...nuttin -- even when I have set the pitch bend range for the instrument on the channel strip set to 12.

I don't want to just offset the pitch by a set amount; I want to use coarse detune to bend the pitch by semitones during a performance.

This could depend on the Instrument plugin (which on eare you referring to?).

Try making a knob or fader object in Layout mode and MIDI learn it to incoming PitchBend messages, then map that control to the dtune function.

CCT

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sblipson Author

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Nov 22, 2011 10:44 AM in response to CCTM

Hi CCTM --

Thanks for the reply -- i don't think the bend range is the issue, though...I mentioned it because I can hear that Mainstage is recognizing the other types of pitch bend (both standard and fine) - but it isn't recognizing the third type, which is coarse detune.

I'm using EXS instruments -- i set the pitch bend range and then I can hear that it is working for standard detune every time. I'm assuming there is just a switch somewhere to identify that the detune messages are coarse detune messages...

thanks for responding, though...

lipp

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CCTM

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Nov 25, 2011 1:33 AM in response to sblipson

Hi

There seems to be some confusion here??

MIDI Coarse and Fine Tuning messages are MIDI Registered Parameter Numbers (RPN's). Are you expecting Logic/MS Instruments to respond to these messages?

Are you expecting MS to 'convert' incoming Pitch Bend messages to these RPN's?

If yes, I think you are barking up the wrong tree...

Try mapping a control slider/knob DIRECTLY to the Coarse/Fine tuning parameters within the plugin.

You may need to make a new knob in Layout mode and MIDI Learn it to incoming MIDI PB messages.

I have tried this method and it works (if I correctly understand what you are trying to do?).

CCT

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