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Quantum3 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Hi folks!

 

I want to create a new Aperture Library to start again instead of cleanning up the one I already have, but when I create a new Library and import the photos the adjustments I did to the same photos but located on the other library doesn't applies or show up in the photos of the new library. Is there a waty to import the adjustments of an old library to a new one?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Ø3


MacPro Hapertown, Mac OS X (10.7.1), 8 cores 8 GB RAM
  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (79,540 points)

    Is there a way to import the adjustments of an old library to a new one?

     

    Yes, you should be able to preserve all settings and adjustments, assuming you are woking with Aperture 3.2.1, but it is a trifle involved to do it, switching between three different libaries.

     

    The trick is

    • to export the items you want to include in your new library as an Aperture Library, not as versions or masters
    • and to reimport them into your new library as a library. That will preserve all your meta data and settings.

     

    Let's assume your libraries are called like this:

    • current.aplibrary: the one you are exporting from
    • destination.aplibrary:  the one you are importing into

     

    Do the following:

    • reveal both laperture libraries in Finder windows.
    • double click the current.aplibrary to open it in Aperture.
    • select the items you want to export (images, projects, folders, albums) in the Library Inspector and all the images in them, then ctrl-click the selection and from the pop-up menu select:

          "Folder/Project/Items as new library", the exact label of the menu entry will depend on your selection. Make sure you enable "show alert when finished" and "consolidate masters into exported library".

    • Pick a name and a location for your new library, let's assume you name it "export.aplibrary"
    • When the export is done, Aperture will reveal you the exported library "export.aplibrary" in the Finder.
    • Now switch to your destination library destination.aplibrary from the File menu -> Switch to Library
    • With your destination.aplibrary open in Aperture, double click your exported library "export.aplibrary" in the Finder window.
    • Aperture will prompt you, if you want to switch to this library or if you want to import it into your destination.aplibrary . (or you could import from the File menu: Import Library/Project)

     

    This way you will preserve all settings and meta tags, exactly as in your old library, but will also import part of the old structure, so I would do the export in easy steps, otherwise you could just duplicate the old library.

     

    HTH

     

    Léonie

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (12,510 points)

    Léonie has provided an excellent answer to your question -- I would like to propose a different solution to your problem.

     

    First, though, we should confirm what your problem is.  From your post, it seems that your Aperture _organization_ is a mess, and you want to clean it up.  Your proposed solution is to start with a new Aperture Library, and populate it with the Images (including adjustments) that are in your current Library.

     

    An important thing to take from this is that Aperture is _working well_, just, from a human perspective, disorganized.

    In other words, you have no computer hardware or software issues you are trying to resolve (Aperture has no idea whether your organization works for you or not).

     

    Instead of creating a new Library and then working with two Libraries, you might be better served by making your entire current organizational structure a child of a top-level Folder in your current Library.  That way it is always available and capable of being hidden (use the disclosure triangle that accompanies every Folder to hide and show), and it remains both easy and frictionless to move your Images/Albums/Folders/Projects from the old structure to the new structure.

     

    When you have completed building your new structure, there should be nothing left under the Folder you created for your old structure that you want to save.  At that point, delete that top-level Folder.  Voila! -- you have the new Library you want.

     

    If your current Library organization is so much a mess that it is going to be easier to "start from scratch" (retaining, of course, all the adjusted Versions), then I suggest using Projects View (set to ungrouped, sorted by date ascending) to merge all your existing Projects into a series of large Projects based solely on date -- keep these to about 1,000 Images each -- and then in essence going through each of these "super-Projects" and breaking them into the Projects that should have been set up all along, viz.: Shoots.  Once you have re-sorted all of your Images into new, consecutive, shoot-based Projects, the rest of your Library organization should be much easier.

     

    You can accomplish the same thing, more simply, in Photos View (sort by date ascending; select consecutive Images, "File→New→Project" with "include selected" checked).  The users I've worked with have been more comfortable seeing their existing Projects (in Projects View) rather than really starting fresh with every Image in Photos View.

     

    Two notes:

    • This is based on first creating a sensible and consistant Project-based grouping of your Images.
    • Your Images contain the adjustments needed to make them.  Nothing here changes that.  All you are doing is changing the containers that hold your Images.  (If the Image is table-setting, you are putting down a new table-cloth, and centerpiece, and table, and building a new dining salon, and castle, and grounds -- without changing the table-setting at all.)

     

    This is complicated, but doesn't endanger your data (and, of course, you DO have a backup, right?).  Post back with any questions.

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (12,510 points)

    OT:  does anyone know where the character sequence

     

    Ø3

     

    is coming from?  (On my monitor that shows as the character for zero (an o with a slash through it), a number three, and a graphic smiley (an actual image -- gif? -- in line with the text).

     

    I hadn't seen this before this morning, when it showed on two different discussion boards.

     

    My guess is that this is similar to the "Capital J = Smiley" that showed up a few years ago with some emoticons entered in some true-type fonts on Windows machines, but I'd like to know for sure.

     

    Thanks.

  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (79,540 points)

    OT: Kirby, I see the same as you:

     

    And there I thought "Quantum3" was just signing in a shorthand code for his name -

    Trying to decode it:

    • The diameter sign "Ø" is an ASCII character - number 216 - from the extended section of the ASCII character code with the code "216", how it is displayed will depend on the extension latin1, latin2 ....
    • The "3" is a basic ASCII character with the code "51" from the 7bit standard section of the ASCII character code, and that is the regular code for the digit "3".
    • The smiley I could not decode sofar.

     

    Léonie

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (12,510 points)

    OT:

     

    The smiley is an image file:

    happy.gif

    located at

    https://discussions.apple.com/4.5.5/images/emoticons/happy.gif

     

    I don't know if the Smiley is inserted using the Discussions editor, or is parsed by the editor from something typed or pasted into the message.

     

    The editor is clever.  Right-clicking an editor-issued emoticon pops up a list of alternates.

     

    Message was edited by: Kirby Krieger -- added "right clicking ... "

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (12,510 points)

    And congratulations on your own nice round and very well-deserved 2K total  .

  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (79,540 points)

    The editor is clever.  Right-clicking an editor-issued emoticon pops up a list of alternates.

     

    Those I know well and use regularly; unfortunately I most often need these  , so I did not recognize the at first.

     

    2K total

    Thank you, perhaps I'll meet you some day on mount aperture. I like the discussions in this forum best, none of the whining and trolling you find in some other forums, here are challenging questions and a lot to learn. Unfortunately it seems to be quite addicting.

     

    Cheers

    Léonie    

  • Quantum3 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Oh, I liked the Ø simbol since MS-DOS, where 0 was represented that way in some moments. I cannot remember exactly when I saw that symbol, if in the year 1986 or 1991 but I loved it. In year 1997, when I got my first computer, a Pentium 233 MHz, I started to play with the ASCII codes (when I found how to do it by accident) and found the symbol!!! which is Alt+0216. I still remember it So I did it my identity, my name, because the symbol appeared to show perfection, and because I'm a perfeccionist, I felt very attracted to the symbol and created many reasons about why that symbol was the perfection itself. Many years later I found all the stuff related to that symbol and it was for me quite weird, because it represents all what I thought about it. I even name God with that symbol because I consider it divine. The 3 number should be put as potence, because it means "perfection at the third potence", number that also liked me a lot because I'm a believer that variety (the creation) begins with the 3, because it's able to be combined and recombined in all the possible ways. Later on, I've adopted "Øuantum3", which is the synthesis of all the means.

     

    So, Ø3 is like a salutation from the purest part of my being, which is blessed like in anyone else, and it's also, the logo of my studio, Øuantum3Studio, used like a Q.

     

    Well... I have been reading the 2 suggestions given here and I find them quite more difficult to do than re-organizing the actual Aperture Library. I personally thoguht it would be so easy like in Adobe Lightroom and that I was missing something, but I see I wasn't.

     

    It's that I find the Aperture Library so non intuitive to understand that each time I see it gives me a headache. There are folders and/or little boxes around there, Projects as folders or Projects as I don't know (and I have red the help many times). I think it's too much untidy itself, too twisted for something that should be simple. I just don't get how the Library was organized.

     

    Anyway, I will try the suggestions. They may be easier than what I think, so I first have to do it and see what it comes

     

    Tank you very much to all!

     

    Ø3

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (12,510 points)

    Quantum3 wrote:

    Ø3

     

    Is this your post as well:

    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=57155.msg481407#msg48140 7 ?

     

    It's that I find the Aperture Library so non intuitive to understand that each time I see it gives me a headache. There are folders and/or little boxes around there, Projects as folders or Projects as I don't know (and I have read the help many times). I think it's too much untidy itself, too twisted for something that should be simple. I just don't get how the Library was organized.

     

    Aperture presents a hurdle to all, and to some with a specific kind of "intuitive" hierarchical thinking pattern, that hurdle can be both tall and solid.  This diffuculty is worsened because Aperture ships as a tool-set and not as a workshop (unlike iPhoto, which is a turn-key workroom).

     

    You may find this concise "naming of the parts" I penned a while ago to be of use as you work to understand Aperture.  Fwiw, I am in the category of those who are "naturally" Mendelian ( ), and thus had to do extra work to learn how to take advantage of Aperture.  It has been more than worth the effort.

  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (79,540 points)

    What a nice and tidy explanation; so you do like everything perfect and organized? Then I am sure Aperture and you will become close friends some day. Aperture is a great tool to organize your images exactly as you want and need, only you can't and shouldn't just jump in - it isn't a plug-and-play tool like iPhoto, you need quite a bit of planning to design your library before you set it up.

     

    OT: Talking about symbols: I myself, being a mere mortal, prefer symbols that allow for flaws and human weakness, like the bitten apple of paradise , a pity that this symbol already is taken.

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (25,715 points)

    Quantum3 wrote:

     

    Is there a waty to import the adjustments of an old library to a new one?

    Yes  export the images you want to move as a new library and then either use that library as is or inport it into your 'new' library.

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (12,510 points)

    I'm pretty sure this was carefully chosen to valorize the world of knowledge over the world of faith.

     

     

  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (79,540 points)

    I'm pretty sure this was carefully chosen to valorize the world of knowledge over the world of faith.

    I think so too, but it was a challenge as well, together with the prize of the first "apple", sold at 666$

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 Level 6 (12,510 points)

    You left out close to two-thirds of a dollar -- and even at that price it came unassembled.

     

     

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