13 Replies Latest reply: Jun 12, 2006 8:08 AM by Colt West1
stepaubade Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
I cant' empty the trash can anymore without pressing the "alt" key.

Otherwise, the coloured wheel keeps on rolling for hours.

Does anybody have an idea.

Thanks

iBook G4, Mac OS X (10.4.4)
  • MGW Level 7 Level 7 (27,020 points)
    Have you tries "force empty" trash?

    Cocktail has a force empty trash feature as well, and there is also an app called, oddly enough, Force Empty Trash http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17841

    Miriam
  • stepaubade Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I can empty the trash, that's not the issue, but only by pressing the option key.
  • MGW Level 7 Level 7 (27,020 points)
    I looked for a trash .plist and couldn't find one. Have you tried repairing permissions? And rebooting?
    Miriam
  • Al Van Malsen Level 6 Level 6 (18,740 points)
    Generally you would use the option key to empty a locked file that was in the trash. I can't imagine what could have happened that would cause this to be necessary for all times, unless all the files you are emptying are locked.

    If these are not files you created, but are coming from a server or something it may be that they are locked files. I am just guessing, but it may be something worth examining. Check and see if the files are locked. If they are, determine why they are locked.

    There is a great FAQ that deals with trash issues here:

    http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/trash.html

    I don't know if it deals specifically with your issue but it is a good FAQ to read and may give you some insights.
  • stepaubade Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    None of the files I tried to trash were locked and comming from elsewhere but from my computer.

    For sure I repaired the premissions.
  • Al Van Malsen Level 6 Level 6 (18,740 points)
    One other thing I can think of trying would be to create a new user and see if the problem persists with the new user. This would give us some idea as to whether this is a system problem or a issue with a user file. Each user has their own separate trash file (called .trash) which is located in each users home folder. The file is not visible obviously.

    I don't see any kind of preference file for the trash but it could be joined with another preference file.

    You mentioned repairing disk permissions, Not a bad idea but unlikely to solve this kind of issue. Have you tried booting from your system CD and running the disk utility to see if there is a problem with file corruption?

    Other that that the only thing I can think of would be a cache issue. I don't know if the trash has any kind of cache file but if nothing else works you could try cleaning the caches using some third party tool designed for that purpose.
  • stepaubade Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I created a new user, no changes.
  • MGW Level 7 Level 7 (27,020 points)
    I suppose, if you can't get a solution here, you could always bite the bullet and call Apple for help. It seems to be a system wide problem, other than an archive and reinstall, I can't really think of anything else you could do.
    Miriam
  • Al Van Malsen Level 6 Level 6 (18,740 points)
    Have you checked your disk as I suggested? The problem is obviously system related since a new user exhibited the same behavior.

    Have you by any chance remapped any of your keys on the keyboard?

    Can you empty the trash using the keyboard without using the alt key by using the shift-command-delete keys?
  • stepaubade Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I checked my disk, no damage,
    I haven't remapped my keyboard,
    I have to use the alt key everytime I want to empty the trash using my keyboard.
  • MGW Level 7 Level 7 (27,020 points)
    Have you tried booting from your install disk? Can you then empty trash properly?
    As I suggested before, perhaps an archive and install would solve your problem.
    Miriam
  • Roy Chang Level 1 Level 1 (80 points)
    This is brilliant! Solved my trash problem! Tks!

    Have you tries "force empty" trash?

    Cocktail has a force empty trash feature as well, and
    there is also an app called, oddly enough, Force
    Empty Trash
    http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/1784
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    Miriam
  • Colt West1 Level 1 Level 1 (50 points)
    I started experiencing almost the exact same issue, except I cannot empty the trash from the Dock at all. Even the alt key or option key has no effect. The only way I can empty trash is from the Finder menu. Again, the files delete without any issues...it's just the process of attempting to empty the trash from the Dock trash icon that fails.