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startupitems folder question

After updating to 10.6.8, I noticed that there is no more StartupItems folder in my System Folder. Is this normal for 10.6.8? The reason I ask is because I wrote a custom AppleScript which checks my StartupItems folders for unwanted/unwelcome files and the script gave me an error last night. Perhaps Apple removed this folder due to the MacDefender malware?

27-Inch iMac 2.66GHz Intel Core i5-OTHER, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 8 GB RAM

Posted on Nov 26, 2011 9:23 AM

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Posted on Nov 26, 2011 9:36 AM

According to another contributor the use of the Startup Items folder(s) has been deprecated for some time. That is to say, it's use is no longer encouraged.

If it's disappeared altogether in 10.6.8 that would be a logical evolution. (I'm still using 10.6.4 so I can't check).


I suppose it's possible that the malware you mention may have hastened the move, but that would just be speculation.

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Nov 26, 2011 9:36 AM in response to Gerard James

According to another contributor the use of the Startup Items folder(s) has been deprecated for some time. That is to say, it's use is no longer encouraged.

If it's disappeared altogether in 10.6.8 that would be a logical evolution. (I'm still using 10.6.4 so I can't check).


I suppose it's possible that the malware you mention may have hastened the move, but that would just be speculation.

Nov 26, 2011 10:08 AM in response to noondaywitch

OK, that explains it. Some of my audio interface software used to be present in the StartupItems folder(s) but after updating to newer versions after updating to 10.6.8, I see that is has now moved elsewhere. If you're using 10.6.4, stay there. I've been through absolute **** with the 10.6.8 update and my only choice now is to either revert back to an older version using Time Machine or move up to Lion.

Nov 26, 2011 11:15 AM in response to Gerard James

See if applying the 10.6.8 combo update brings it back


http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1400


See My Recommendatons for Updating.


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3139323?tstart=0



You could also just manually create one there, then if you're sure what belongs in there, just move them back in. After that, be sure to repair Permissions. Good idea to have a backup before trying this.


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Nov 26, 2011 11:18 AM in response to WZZZ

That's not the combo updater you pointed me to, that's the delta updater. The combo update is here:


http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1399


The above combo update is the exact same one I installed five days ago.


Regarding your recommendations for updating, I do all of this (and have always done so) with the addition of clearing out the caches first with Yasu. I've sworn by Yasu since the day it came out.


Never had so many problems with an update before. Looks like I'm going to have fork out some $$ to upgrade a pile of software and then move to 10.7. There's no way I'm going to waste more hours than I already have by reformatting and trying again. This update is a total lemon. I still can't figure out what the "supplemental update" is - clear as mud:


http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1429


It was posted *after* the 10.6.8 Combo Update 1.1.

Nov 26, 2011 11:33 AM in response to Gerard James

Yeah, wrong DL. Sorry, I was rushing. The 10.6.8 has been solid for me, but maybe depends on the configuration and what third party software is installed. I'd give it another shot before giving in to Rosetta free, iPad imitating Lion. You have the right link for the combo. Wait until you've had a break and have some more energy. You don't need the supplemental. The combo now includes that.


And, there's no need to reformat and reinstall. Just reinstall, no erase. This will give you new System files, while preserving everything else. Then just update as far as you feel it's safe.


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Nov 26, 2011 4:18 PM in response to Gerard James

If Apple KB is to be trusted, the StartupItems folders are still used in SL, and even Lion (see TS3493 and 10.6 Help and 10.7 Help).


At any rate, I shouldn't worry if any of these folders (</System/Library/StartupItems/>, </Library/StartupItems/>, <~/Library/StartupItems/> were missing, unless there were items which were supposed to be inside them. As for your AppleScript, just add a check for the folder before trying to examine its contents. Eg, do shell script "ls /System/Library/StartupItems" within a try statement.

Nov 26, 2011 8:13 PM in response to WZZZ

Not a problem, I'm going to take a break here for the rest of the weekend and try running the combo update once more to see what happens. I held out at 10.6.6 for as long as I could. Wish I could have stayed there. These Apple updates can be so problematic for some of us. Seems as though when you have the most recent Mac, you're okay but when your Mac gets to be a couple of years old, Apple leaves you in the dust.

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