I was wondering how can i configure my airport express with my xbox live so that i have an open nat connection. I have two diffrent airport express one is the base and the other is the relay which is extending the connection from the base and is really close to the xbox. I get a really good connection but it says the nat type is strict please help how can i change it to open.!!! I have a windows computer
Airport Express-OTHER, Other OS
You may have what is known as a Double NAT error on your network. To verify....
Open AirPort Utility, select your "main" AirPort Express, click Manual Setup
Click directly on the word Status (2nd line on the summary page) and a window will open to display any issues or problems.
Is there a message there? If yes, what does it say?
It says double nat ?? what should i do
Both your "modem" and the AirPort Express are now configured to provide NAT services, so you have two layers of NAT, or "Double NAT" on the network.
Your modem needs to be configured in Bridge Mode so the AirPort is the only NAT device.
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The AirPort needs to be configured in Bridge Mode so the modem is the only NAT device.
What is the make and model number of your modem?
My modem is a Motorola SB5100 Surfboard what should i do configure my modem or my router whats better?
Sorry, I'm not familiar with that modem, so cannot tell you if it is possible to turn off the NAT services on the device. That would be a question for your Internet Service Provider.
You can try to configure the AirPort Express in Bridge Mode to see if that might work......but I suspect that only one device will be able to connect to the Internet.
If you want to try it,
Open AirPort Utility - Click Manual Setup
Click the Internet icon
Click the Internet Connection tab
Change the setting for Connection Sharing to "Off" (Bridge Mode)
Click Update to save the settings
If this does not work, you'll need to change it back to "Share a public IP address" and check with your provider to ask them how to turn off the NAT on the modem.
But isent there another way of changing the nat to open without configuring my modem ?? I tried to put it in bridge mode but it has no internet why and what should i do to make it have internet?
Did you restart the entire network again?
I suspect that Bridge Mode on the AirPort is not the right setting for your setup.
Unfortunately, the AirPorts are not on the list of "approved" xBox routers. You might want to try their support site for more ideas.
The Motorola SB5100 is a broadband Internet modem. It does not have any routing functions and defaults to bridge mode when connected to the Internet.
Unfortunately, the AirPorts are not listed as Xbox Live-compatible routers ... so there is no guarantee doing this will get Open NAT status for Xbox Live!
The following web blog does a great job explaining the NAT issues with Xbox Live! Basically what it comes down to is that although you can get an Internet connection for the Xbox with the AirPorts, you may not get the necessary NAT setting (Moderate or Open) for the Xbox Live! on-line game that you want to play. As such, you basically have two options: 1) Create a DMZ (Apple calls this a Default Host) for the XBox or 2) Configure the AirPort for Port mapping to open the required ports to allow Xbox Live! access ... or 3) Use a compatible router.
Option 1 - Create a DMZ
Option 2 - Configure Port Mapping
The following ports must be available for Xbox Live to operate correctly:
To setup port mapping on an AXn connect to the AXn's wireless network, and then use the AirPort Utility, in Manual Setup, to make these settings:
1. Reserve a DHCP-provided IP address for the Xbox 360.
2. Setup Port Mapping on the AEBSn.
AirPort Utility > Select the AXn > Manual Setup > Internet > NAT > Configure Port Mappings
Thanks, Tesserax. Was looking for a previous post with this info to forward.
Thanks im going to try these methods to see what happends. But is there the possiblility that i cant change the nat type to open and how high is it ?? If i stay with a strict nat how does it affect my gameplay?
Option 1 would have the greater chance to provide your Xbox with an "Open" NAT condition, but again since the AirPorts are not listed as Xbox Live compatible from Microsoft, there is no guarentee that it will.
As the referenced article states, the NAT type is driven by whether or not the router supports UPnP. The AirPorts do not. Instead that utilize the Apple version, called NAT-PMP.
I believe the NAT type will affect to what level of on-line gaming that you will be able to access. My guess is that any games that require you to be the host will not work.
For option 1 where do i find the exact ip adress of my xbox ?
For option 1 i need help finding my xbox ip adress because i found it but it gave me a huge number: 186.32.14.139 and for the default host i can just enter 3 numbers so which numbers should i put?? please help
You will need to assign a static Private IP address to your Xbox just outside of the range of DHCP-provided IP addresses. By default, this range for the AirPort is: 10.0.1.2 - 10.0.1.200. So assigning an IP address to the Xbox of 10.0.1.201 would be approprriate. You would assign this address via the Xbox's user interface.
Wow, I'd love to know how this was solved. I'm having the same issue with my Nintendo 3DS. It connects to the internet perfectly, but any direct interactions with players results in errors. I'm horrible with stuff like this, but it seems to be the NAT issue between the Airport Express and my ISP which is VECTANT Ltd. in Japan.
Does anyone have any advice or work around?
With what is suggested above, I try to update and I get: The DHCP range you have entered conflicts with the WAN IP of your Apple WIFI Base Station.
When I adjust the Beginning and Ending DHCP Addresses so that the IP Adress (Listed under Airport Summary) is outside of this range, I still get the same problem.
I could really use some help. I'm not very good with these types of things and I just need to know if there's a workaround or not. Otherwise, I'll have to return the router.
Airport and Xbox live connection
