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  • TZ Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    I e-mail syncing of rules and accounts was extremely useful and there doesn't seem to be anyway of replacing this functionality.

     

    Going to be real fun trying to keep email rules in sync at places with dozens and dozens of Macs.

     

    Just last week I had to setup six new Macs, one PC, an iPhone and iPad. Instead of just adding the email accounts to one Mac and having them propagate over to all the devices and I had to go around and setup each device individually. I was getting paid by the hour so I guess I shouldn't complain but it is repetitive and tedious and didn't use to be this way under MobileMe.

  • Winston Churchill Level 10 Level 10 (84,680 points)

    I would have thought that it goes without saying that you need to set up each device., if it just synced Mail the same way on every device, how would I deal with setting up one rule on one devices and not on another and how would I deal with not wanting mail on one device at all.

  • TZ Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    You obviously haven't worked in prodution houses where the same person often works at a bunch of different workstations throughout the week. Not to mention that many people have the same email accounts on both their work computers and home computers.

  • Winston Churchill Level 10 Level 10 (84,680 points)

    I have 3 iOS devices I use with my iCloud account and 3 other computers, so indeed I know exactly what you are referring to. I, for example don't want notifications from these communities on my iPhone, or on the macs I don't use at home, your simplified everything on everything just wouldn't work, thankfully Apple have created a system that suits everyone and not just a small subset of users.

  • TZ Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    Winston Churchill wrote:

     

    I have 3 iOS devices I use with my iCloud account and 3 other computers, so indeed I know exactly what you are referring to. I, for example don't want notifications from these communities on my iPhone, or on the macs I don't use at home, your simplified everything on everything just wouldn't work, thankfully Apple have created a system that suits everyone and not just a small subset of users.

    Did you ever use MobileMe?

     

    If you didn't want your accounts to sync it was simple enough to not turn this feature on. Now with iCloud it isn't even an option anymore.

  • Winston Churchill Level 10 Level 10 (84,680 points)

    Yes I used Mobile me, I had from dotmac.

     

    What do you mean there isn't an option to sync anymore, of course there is.

  • TZ Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    Winston Churchill wrote:

     

    Yes I used Mobile me, I had from dotmac.

     

    What do you mean there isn't an option to sync anymore, of course there is.

    There is no sync for email accounts and email rules in iCloud.

     

    When you add or change a rule it does not sync to your other devices. Same for email accounts. Adding or removing an account does not sync to your other devices.

  • Julian Wright Level 7 Level 7 (34,860 points)
    Your arguments suggest the absence of a business perspective.

     

     

    I'm just telling you the facts that you seem unaware of. And for your information, I have a full-time day job working for a business, and I also run my own online business. Neither of which use MobileMe (or now iCloud) for business purposes. Both my day job and my own business use professional level services for our push email, web hosting, file sharing, syncing etc. Some of our big international clients demand that we use online services that can guarantee reliability and security of the data stored. We need to show them SLAs as part of our contracts with them.

     

     

    Such disclaimers are written by lawyers who are paid to protect businesses from liability.

     

    Companies that deal in business-to-business services don't have such disclaimers. They actually have services guarantees that businesses rely on.

     

    Maybe for small businesses, MobileMe would suffice, but when you're dealing with big-multinational companies and need as close to 100% reliability as possible, it just doesn't cut it, and was never intended to.

     

    Saying that, for my own personal needs, (keeping my personal iOS devices and computers in sync, emailing and sharing a few photos with friends and family) MobileMe worked great. I switched to Dropbox a few years back for file sharing as iDisk was so painfully slow and lacking in features. The only thing I've had to find an alternative for is photo sharing. For my personal web-hosting needs, I already used a professional host, as I needed PHP and MySQL capability - and that's something else MobileMe never offered (how many business-orientated providers don't offer PHP/MySQL these days?).

     

    making toys is all that Apple seems to care about these days.

     

    LOL! That comment is so ludicrous its not even worthy of a response. You're rapidly starting to descend into troll territory.

  • Don T Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
    making toys is all that Apple seems to care about these days.

     

     

    LOL! That comment is so ludicrous its not even worthy of a response. You're rapidly starting to descend into troll territory.

    I was with you to the very end. Ludicrous? Perhaps I'm inferring something here, but I think what the poster was saying is that Apple is no longer serious about their professional and advanced users and more focused on bringing the "halo effect" from iPhones and iPads to the Mac No, I don't consider them toys, but I've used Macs since OS 6 and Lion is the first OS that actually goes backwards in functionality. Mission Control? Catering to users who don't know how to do a "Save As..."?

    Where's the new Mac Pro? Why can't I buy an Apple Display with a matte screen? How's the Final Cut thing working out? And my crystal ball tells me that the MAS is a transition to the day when only apps installed through it will be able to launch on a future OS.

    Just my $0.02 worth. Your mileage may vary.

  • capaho Level 4 Level 4 (3,650 points)

    Don T wrote:

     

    Ludicrous? Perhaps I'm inferring something here, but I think what the poster was saying is that Apple is no longer serious about their professional and advanced users and more focused on bringing the "halo effect" from iPhones and iPads to the Mac No, I don't consider them toys, but I've used Macs since OS 6 and Lion is the first OS that actually goes backwards in functionality.

     

    Thank you, you understood me perfectly.  By toys I mean that Apple seems to be more interested in cashing in on the consumer market for entertaining electronic gadgets, which is not to say that they aren't useful for those who use them, but they seem to be moving away from products that are useful for my work.

     

    The irony here is that I switched from PCs to Macs many years ago because of OS X, and now I am considering switching back to PCs from Macs because of OS X.

  • Michael Sciascia Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    maybe they should list ALL system/software requirements (i.e. Pages '11, Lion,iOs5 etc.)

     

    They do. It's all detailed quite clearly on the iCloud info pages, starting here: http://www.apple.com/icloud/

    STEP #1: iOS Devices.  

    Make sure your device is running iOS 5.

     

     

    STEP #1: Mac

    Make sure your Mac is running the latest version of OS X Lion.

     

     

    That just about does it for me...  None of my iOS devices are iOS 5 compatible and only one computer in the family runs Lion...

     

    What I need to know is will I be able to sync the family calendars and address books?   I can't find that spelled out anywhere.  

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (40,635 points)

    Michael Sciascia wrote:

     

    maybe they should list ALL system/software requirements (i.e. Pages '11, Lion,iOs5 etc.)

     

    They do. It's all detailed quite clearly on the iCloud info pages, starting here: http://www.apple.com/icloud/

    STEP #1: iOS Devices.  

    Make sure your device is running iOS 5.

     

     

    STEP #1: Mac

    Make sure your Mac is running the latest version of OS X Lion.

     

     

    That just about does it for me...  None of my iOS devices are iOS 5 compatible and only one computer in the family runs Lion...

     

    What I need to know is will I be able to sync the family calendars and address books?   I can't find that spelled out anywhere.  

    No, you will not, try an alternative service

  • TZ Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    Csound1 wrote: 

    No, you will not, try an alternative service

    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

     

    Personally we are planning on switching back to Windows and Android phones when it comes time to get new equipment again unless things change.

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (40,635 points)

    TZ wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote: 

    No, you will not, try an alternative service

    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

     

    Personally we are planning on switching back to Windows and Android phones when it comes time to get new equipment again unless things change.

    That is an option, assuming you are in the same situation as the poster I replied to.

  • TZ Level 1 Level 1 (120 points)

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    TZ wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote: 

    No, you will not, try an alternative service

    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

     

    Personally we are planning on switching back to Windows and Android phones when it comes time to get new equipment again unless things change.

    That is an option, assuming you are in the same situation as the poster I replied to.

    Pretty much... We have a network of Mac running Leopard and Snow Leopard. Only a few of our Macs can even run Lion and with the loss of Rosetta Lion isn't an option even on those machines.

     

    We have built our business around being able to keep everything in sync which is going away this year. Plus at some point new equipment will need to be bought and not going to get burnt again by Apple and their closed system which now seems to include forced upgrades to systems that can no longer run older software or run on older hardware.

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