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  • Tony T1 Level 6 (9,005 points)

    Tom, if you dislike Lion so much, why not downgrade to Snow Leopard?

     

    Here's how:

          https://discussions.apple.com/message/16956285#16956285

  • Barney-15E Level 8 (46,319 points)

    Tom in London wrote:

    So everything has to be narrowed down.

    Narrowed down? I'd like them gone completely. I haven't used one since installing Lion and getting a Magic Trackpad.

  • Tom in London Level 4 (1,610 points)

    Tony T1 wrote:

     

    Tom, if you dislike Lion so much, why not downgrade to Snow Leopard?

     

    Why have you assumed that I didn't?

     

    FYI I did and I now have a stable, user-friendly OS to work with, over which I have full control.

     

    Your big mistake is in thinking that moving to Snow Leopard is "downgrading". It isn't.

     

    I also have Lion on another computer, which I fire up every once in a while as a curiosity when I'm not doing anything serious. I regard it as a toy.

  • Tom in London Level 4 (1,610 points)

    Well, bully for you.  Some people (myself included) can't use trackpads.

  • Tony T1 Level 6 (9,005 points)

    Tom in London wrote:

     

    Tony T1 wrote:

     

    Tom, if you dislike Lion so much, why not downgrade to Snow Leopard?

    Here's how:

          https://discussions.apple.com/message/16956285#16956285

     

     

    Why have you assumed that I didn't?

     

    The assumption was made as this is the Lion Forum.

     

    I hate Windows, but I don't troll the MicroSoft forums commenting about how much I hate Windows every day.

  • Barney-15E Level 8 (46,319 points)

    Tom in London wrote:

     

    Well, bully for you.  Some people (myself included) can't use trackpads.

    Then you shouldn't be using Lion. Its whole UI is geared around gestures.

    A lot of it can be done with the keyboard, but it is so much simpler to get around with a trackpad.

  • kimster66 Level 1 (0 points)

    I can only repeat my point here: I am generally pleased with Lion, but like a number of others I think that Apple would have done better to give people a choice. Read this as an example:  http://simurai.com/post/8083942390/force-lion-scrollbar

     

    Tony: Sarcasm is generally judged by effect and not by intention. Clearly this point escapes you. To put down users who feel frustrated and to try to ridicule them by smug sarcasm is a common mistake often repeated by the poorest of pedagogues: "Oh, your problem is so  s m a l l  that it's not even worthy of my empathy..." Your attitude is a dead giveaway, mister. Don't impress me much.

     

    Apparently, you believe its your right to moralize as to my behaviour as a consumer. It may come as a surprise, but your 'advice' is actually unwanted, nonconstructive and in poor taste. I suggest you rather spend the time staring at your own reflection. I'm certain you will be extremely pleased.

     

    I for one have better things to do.

  • Barney-15E Level 8 (46,319 points)

    kimster66 wrote:

     

    ...but like a number of others I think that Apple would have done well to give people a choice.

    Apple hasn't given anybody a choice since the choice between Graphite and Blue and the highlight color. Hoping that it happens now is highly unlikely.

  • kimster66 Level 1 (0 points)

    Quite the contrary: you can adjust your trackpad to suit your pref, right? So what is the principal difference between adding adjustment for a mouse and a scroll bar? Apple gives users choices all the time. It's part of the deal. They just could not be bothered with the scroll bar. I will probably survive a narrow scroll bar. My point was simply that it could have been adjustable. I am not hoping it will happen, I just - perhaps naively - asked if anyone knew how to adjust it.

  • Tony T1 Level 6 (9,005 points)

    kimster66 wrote:

     

    I for one have better things to do.

     

    As one who cannot adapt to small scroll bars ("There is NO WAY I can live with this"), I don't think you do...

     

    Edit: I'm happy to see that you have come to grips with this devastating problem that Apple has bestowed upon you ("I will probably survive a narrow scroll bar"), but if you change your mind and want to downgrade to SL, see: https://discussions.apple.com/message/16956285#16956285

     

    Tony

  • Tom in London Level 4 (1,610 points)

    Tony T1 wrote:

    I hate Windows, but I don't troll the MicroSoft forums commenting about how much I hate Windows every day.

    Frankly I'm not that interested in how you feel about Windows, and how you don't troll the MS forums. I just don't see what that has to with the Lion discussion forums.

  • Tony T1 Level 6 (9,005 points)

    Barney-15E wrote:

     

    Tom in London wrote:

     

    Well, bully for you.  Some people (myself included) can't use trackpads.

    Then you shouldn't be using Lion. Its whole UI is geared around gestures.

    A lot of it can be done with the keyboard, but it is so much simpler to get around with a trackpad.

     

    The interesting thing is, Tom in UK doesn't use Lion, he's still on SL (he just likes stirring the Sh*t in the Lion forum, just ignore him)

  • Barney-15E Level 8 (46,319 points)

    The interesting thing is, Tom in UK doesn't use Lion, he's still on SL (he just likes stirring the Sh*t in the Lion forum, just ignore him)

    But I enjoy stirring up Tom. It's easy, but some days you have to take it easy.

  • Tony T1 Level 6 (9,005 points)

     

  • Subbu44 Level 1 (0 points)

    I, like kimster66, find the scroll bars way too narrow in OS Lion, not to mention its barely noticeable color. Reason being I use an external ergonomic keyboard and mouse and so rarely ever use the touchpad except when I am using the MBP strictly as a laptop. I love my MBP, but find laptop keyboards too small. Call me old-fashioned, but as you get older you will relate to people like me better.

     

    I don't mind Apple listening to those customers who wanted the scroll bars out, but should give those who want it retained the option to widen it. Shouldn't be that much of a programming job I would think.

     

    Subbu