rshammaa
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Q: Alternative to discontinued iWeb?

Has anyone found a satisfactory web design software to substitute for iWeb which is discontinued?

iMac 21.5", Mac OS X (10.7.2), Pages for iPhone/iPad

Posted on Dec 11, 2011 4:56 PM

by Old Toad,Solvedanswer
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A:

I switched to Flux and find it to be the better alternative of those I looked at. It came closest to iWeb in drag and drop.  It doesn't have a flimsy manual. Just a minimal pdf file.  The online video tutorials are good expecially if you're one to learn by seeing it done rather than read a manual.  I was able to download them so I could easily play them to refresh myself on specific aspects without having to go to their website. The help file is minimally OK. It's geared to those who know a little HTML, not necessarily enough to create a web site with just an HTML editor. 

 

I took most of the 30 day demo time before I felt comfortable enough with it to purchase.  Although it has many templates to start with you can also start with a blank canvas and go from there.  It can read existing htmo file including iWeb site files. 

 

I tried Rage's WebDesign, Sandvox and some others and none let me get up and running as fast as Flux did.

 

Happy Holidays

Posted on Dec 12, 2011 12:41 PM

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  • by Roddy,

    Roddy Roddy Dec 11, 2011 8:23 PM in response to rshammaa
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    Dec 11, 2011 8:23 PM in response to rshammaa

    Here's some alternatives with links...

     

    http://www.ezmacwebdesign.com/ez-mac-web-design.html

  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Dec 12, 2011 1:33 AM in response to rshammaa
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    Dec 12, 2011 1:33 AM in response to rshammaa

    It is not quite true that iWeb has been discontued.  It is an application on your Mac and will still work with both Lion and Snow Leopard and you can still use it. 

     

    You don't need an alternative - continue to use iWeb.

  • by Alancito,

    Alancito Alancito Dec 12, 2011 2:49 AM in response to rshammaa
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    Dec 12, 2011 2:49 AM in response to rshammaa

    rshammaa wrote:

     

    Has anyone found a satisfactory web design software to substitute for iWeb which is discontinued?

    Bearing in mind that what may be "satisfactory" for one person may not be for another, see the suggestion in this post:

     

    What happens to iWeb when there's no MobileMe?

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-15022477-1766/128-62/SigT.gif

  • by rshammaa,

    rshammaa rshammaa Dec 12, 2011 6:58 AM in response to rshammaa
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    Dec 12, 2011 6:58 AM in response to rshammaa

    Thank you all for your responses.

     

    Of course it still resides on our harddrives yet iWeb is no longer being marketed or supported - as of soon; and, worse, no longer upgraded to respond to users' requests.

     

    I did a little research after posting here and found that Freeway by Softpress is probably the most likely candidate for me because it is design oriented and works code out behind the scenes in, apparently, seamless ways. And there are 2 levels to the software, the entry level being marketed at a very affordable $79 while offering many more options than iWeb should I opt to use them.

     

    So that's the way I choose to go for now. I hope I am right, being very design oriented but all thumbs technically speaking - hence my original fascination with iWeb.

  • by Roddy,

    Roddy Roddy Dec 12, 2011 8:47 AM in response to rshammaa
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    Dec 12, 2011 8:47 AM in response to rshammaa

    Freeway has been around for a while and, in my opinion, is long overdue for a complete rebuild since it has a really poor interface and exhibits sluggish performance.

     

    Flux 3 is a more modern and versatile alternative if you wish to have the ability to drag and drop while also being able to modify code...

     

    http://www.theescapers.com/flux/

  • by rshammaa,

    rshammaa rshammaa Dec 12, 2011 9:38 AM in response to Roddy
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    Dec 12, 2011 9:38 AM in response to Roddy

    Most reviews award Freeway between 4 and 5 stars. Whereas Flux gets criticized for having a very minimal manual, for being buggy, for being a "complex beast", and for missing undo functions. CNet doesn't even review it. The choice seems like a no brainer from the outside.

  • by Roddy,

    Roddy Roddy Dec 12, 2011 10:04 AM in response to rshammaa
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    Dec 12, 2011 10:04 AM in response to rshammaa

    Well, you have to remember that Freeway has been around for a long time and maybe some people like its Microsoft like interface and sluggish performance.

     

    When I was looking for a replacement for iWeb, I was focused on finding software that was capable of building responsive websites that would easily adapt to the proliferation of devices - especially mobile ones since this is rapidly becoming the most popular way to surf the 'net. I didn't choose either Freeway or Flux but I did try them.

     

    Flux appears to be the only software where you can break free from fixed width templates and use drag and drop. It can be simple or complex depending on how you approach it and use it.

     

    At the end of the day, its all down to user preferrence and my rating of these products reflects my personal opinion - for what its worth!

  • by rshammaa,

    rshammaa rshammaa Dec 12, 2011 10:22 AM in response to Roddy
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    Dec 12, 2011 10:22 AM in response to Roddy

    Thank you Roddy; what you say interests me, and yet it flies in the face of MacWorld's description and evaluation (which awards the software 4.5 mice) - or so it seems to me; perhaps because their evaluation is more recent and takes many updates into account, including the update concerning mobile devices.

     

    Herte is the link http://www.macworld.com/article/135221/2008/09/freewaypro5.html. Look under the Review tab; the description is quite comprehensive. And then let me know what you think, as I don't want to make a mistake.

     

    Thanks a lot.

  • by Roddy,

    Roddy Roddy Dec 12, 2011 10:39 AM in response to rshammaa
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    Dec 12, 2011 10:39 AM in response to rshammaa

    That review is fairly old and there is one about Flux dated this year...

     

    http://www.macworld.com/article/158833/2011/04/macflux3.html

     

    I don't take MacWorld reviews too seriously after what they said about iWeb V 3 when it first came out. My comment to them was along the lines of, "Did the reviewer actually try the software?" since they forgot to mention all the initial problems with the FTP and one or two other problems exhibited by the initial release.

  • by rshammaa,Helpful

    rshammaa rshammaa Dec 12, 2011 10:54 AM in response to Roddy
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    Dec 12, 2011 10:54 AM in response to Roddy

    So for you, it's Flux hands down. But is what they say about the flimsy manual, the bugginess and complexity accurate? Remember, I have no coding skills at all, and do not favor steep learning curves.

     

    Also, which software did YOU settle on in the end?

  • by Roddy,Helpful

    Roddy Roddy Dec 12, 2011 11:14 AM in response to rshammaa
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    Dec 12, 2011 11:14 AM in response to rshammaa

    Old Toad is using Flux and he would be the best person to ask about its performance and degree of difficulty.

     

    I didn't refer to the manual when I tested it but did have a quick look at the tutorial videos.

     

    You may also be interested in this...

     

    http://designshack.net/articles/html/how-to-build-a-website-with-flux-3-a-coders -wysiwyg

     

    I am using Rage Software's WebDesign but this is WYSIWYG code entry style with no drag and drop.

  • by Old Toad,Solvedanswer

    Old Toad Old Toad Dec 12, 2011 12:41 PM in response to rshammaa
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    Dec 12, 2011 12:41 PM in response to rshammaa

    I switched to Flux and find it to be the better alternative of those I looked at. It came closest to iWeb in drag and drop.  It doesn't have a flimsy manual. Just a minimal pdf file.  The online video tutorials are good expecially if you're one to learn by seeing it done rather than read a manual.  I was able to download them so I could easily play them to refresh myself on specific aspects without having to go to their website. The help file is minimally OK. It's geared to those who know a little HTML, not necessarily enough to create a web site with just an HTML editor. 

     

    I took most of the 30 day demo time before I felt comfortable enough with it to purchase.  Although it has many templates to start with you can also start with a blank canvas and go from there.  It can read existing htmo file including iWeb site files. 

     

    I tried Rage's WebDesign, Sandvox and some others and none let me get up and running as fast as Flux did.

     

    Happy Holidays

  • by Nimblesailor,

    Nimblesailor Nimblesailor Feb 21, 2012 4:13 PM in response to rshammaa
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    Feb 21, 2012 4:13 PM in response to rshammaa

    I bought a new imac with lion OS. It has iWeb already installed. Are you sure it's been discontinued?

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Feb 21, 2012 5:05 PM in response to Nimblesailor
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    Feb 21, 2012 5:05 PM in response to Nimblesailor

    Oh yes, positive. iWeb is history.   Where and when did you get the iMac? If you got the iMac right after Lion was released it could be an iMac that had Snow Leopard installed and Lion was installed over it keeping the iWeb and iDVD applications because they were there originally. 

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