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Tony Barone Level 2 Level 2 (220 points)

Just last night I exported the contents of my Aperture Photo Library to a Folder.  After the export, the size of the folder was roughly 25 GB.

 

My Aperture Library file is almost twice that size at 43GB.  I went into the Aperture Library with "view contents" and the Master File directory in there is in the range of 35GB with the Preview Directory making up for the remaining space.

 

I have not made edits to enough pictures that would come close to accounting for the nearly double size between the exported files and the Master Photo library so I don't understand why theres such a difference.

 

Can anyone offer any suggestions?


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  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (63,925 points)

    Did you export your versions or your master image files? If you exported the master files, then your exported image files should have the size of the master file directory inside the aperture Library package.

     

    If you exported the versions, then the size would depend on the export settings.

    • The largest files you will get with Tiff, original size, 16 bit,
    • Only half as much size with Tiff, original size, 8 bit,
    • varying smaller sizes with jepeg compression, depending on quality settings in the export dialogue.
    • And even smaller sizes, if you did not export at the original size.

     

    If your original masters are jpegs, it would be a waste of disk space to export as tiff, but if your masters are raw, tiff would be the best option.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • Tony Barone Level 2 Level 2 (220 points)

    I'm sorry, I should have mentioned that I exported the master files as JPG, but they are also JPG within the main Library.. so I don't see a reason for the huge difference in size.

     

    Thank you for your help though.

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (25,695 points)

    Ae your masters RAW or JPGs? What is the quality setting for the previews (Aperture->Preferences->Previews)?

     

    (Looking at your prrevious post again it appears the msters are JPG)

     

    So are you asking because you think there is a problem with he library or are you just curious? Remember the library doesn't hold just the masters. There are the previews and thumbnails, the faces and places databases, and of course the versions. Are you doing any slideshows or books? All these things add to the library.

  • Tony Barone Level 2 Level 2 (220 points)

    Thanks for the reply.

     

    I think there is a problem with the Library. 

     

    I'm aware that the Library holds a lot more than just the masters, but looking inside the Library at the content, the Masters folder is at least 10GB larger than the exported images. 

     

    I wouldn't expect it to be that much larger since the Masters folder is just my images.

  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (63,925 points)

    Tony,

    have you tried to set the quality slider for the jpeg export to 12? The default is only 10; that usually relults in a larger compression rate and reduction of file size.

  • Tony Barone Level 2 Level 2 (220 points)

    That is a possibility... I will definitely check that this evening and see what its set at!

     

    Thanks for the suggestion, hadn't thought of that.

     

    I really wish Aperture had an easier way to backup to DVD.  It has that "Vault" option, but only good for HD.  I'm trying to make a complete photo backup to multiple DVDs.

  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (63,925 points)

    To back up your Aperture Library a copy on an external disk would be much better than exporting your images. if you export the versions you loose the ability to revert your changes to the original masters, and if you export the masters you loose your edits.

  • Tony Barone Level 2 Level 2 (220 points)

    I use Time Machine to Backup everything.  I want another backup of all my Master images on non-magnetic media... DVD.  Far too risky to have just a HD backup, even if the DVD backup is only my Masters, I can separately backup my edited images as well.

  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (63,925 points)
    I want another backup of all my Master images on non-magnetic media... DVD

     

    o.k., that explains what you want to achieve

     

    even if the DVD backup is only my Masters

    Now I am puzzled - if you export the masters with

         File -> Export -> Masters

     

    Then the toltal size of your exported masters should be exactly the size of the "Masters" folder inside your Aperture Library package, or did you export the versions?

     

    Regards

  • Tony Barone Level 2 Level 2 (220 points)

    Now I am puzzled - if you export the masters with

         File -> Export -> Masters

     

    Then the toltal size of your exported masters should be exactly the size of the "Masters" folder inside your Aperture Library package, or did you export the versions?

     

     

    Yes, it should, I guess thats what I've been trying to explain.  It is not the same size.
    It is possible I mistakenly exported versions, I will do it again this evening and see what happens.

     

     

    Thanks again.

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (25,695 points)

    I just tried it on a small library. The masters folder in the library is 5GB the exported masters are 4.9GB

     

    Screen Shot 2011-12-13 at 12-13 14.11.28.png

     

    This is a combination of JPG and RAW masters.

     

    How did you export the masters?  How did you select the images to export? Perhaps you didn;t have you're whole library selected.

  • Tony Barone Level 2 Level 2 (220 points)

    I had Photos selected in the list on the left while in Browse mode, had all 33,000+ photos listed, selected all (Command-A) then did Export with Command-Shift-E I believe it is.

     

    On a completely different note.  Would anyone have any sugestions how to break up my Library a bit into smaller Libraries?

     

    About 6 months ago I switched from iPhoto to Aperture and have all 33,000+ photos in a single Aperture Library and was thinking about breaking them down into smaller ones, perhaps by year or something like that.

     

    My photos go from around 1999, when I first went digital, to now.

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 Level 7 (25,695 points)

    comand shift E is exporting versions

  • Tony Barone Level 2 Level 2 (220 points)

    Ah, so that is most likely the problem.  I should export Masters though the Export menu.

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