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Q: Audio crackling using apple 9 and apogee ensemble

I am running logic with an apogee ensemble. The sound distorts/crackles when played through logic but not when played through iTunes. Any ideas?

 

Ray

Mac Pro 8 core

OS Lion (latest update)

Apogee Ensemble

Maestro 2

MacBook Pro, iOS 5.0.1

Posted on Dec 21, 2011 9:20 PM

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  • by Eric Vo,

    Eric Vo Eric Vo Feb 22, 2013 6:33 AM in response to eddwolf
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    Feb 22, 2013 6:33 AM in response to eddwolf

    I run a middle 2011 mac mini with i7 Core 2 and had no problem sience ML. But i also have a mid 2009 MBP 2,53Ghz Core 2 (with ML) i will do some testing with this one as well.

  • by eddwolf,

    eddwolf eddwolf Feb 23, 2013 11:31 AM in response to Eric Vo
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    Feb 23, 2013 11:31 AM in response to Eric Vo

    so, now I played several hours without one single click or pop on my MBP with buffer sice of 128! Even buffer size of 64 is much more stable than 256 on the iMac!

  • by bogartpeanuts,

    bogartpeanuts bogartpeanuts Feb 23, 2013 12:41 PM in response to raydawg
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    Feb 23, 2013 12:41 PM in response to raydawg

    Since I've installed ML on my iMac i7 3.4 I've not been able to use Logic with my Ensemble. Cracks and Pops even with the Buffer at 512. This is really bad and I am more than just disappointed with Apogee and Apple. What lousy support and service !!! This should have been fixed by them with a driver update or whatever months ago. I've spent $$$$ on this setup. How can they just ignore their customers problems. I've switched to Ableton Live because with this program, I do not have these problems. Sorry to say, but I am glad to finally see that I'm not the only one with this problem. APPLE, APOGEE!!! DO SOMETHING!!! GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!!! - isn't that what you are supposed to do anyways?

  • by eddwolf,

    eddwolf eddwolf Feb 24, 2013 3:58 AM in response to raydawg
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    Feb 24, 2013 3:58 AM in response to raydawg

    Hi bogartpeanuts,

    as already posted I found out, that it works with my early 2011 MBP on ML

    So I compared the HW-Components between these Macs (without really knowing what I am doing) but there is very strange behavior which you might test as well. Sounds funny, but if I reduce the screen resolution of my iMAC27 i5 (mid 2010) one level to 1920x1200, I can play my piano  without clicks and pops with buffer size  64!

  • by bogartpeanuts,

    bogartpeanuts bogartpeanuts Feb 24, 2013 11:04 AM in response to eddwolf
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    Feb 24, 2013 11:04 AM in response to eddwolf

    Hi eddwolf,

     

    Thanks for the tip. I just tried it and it dosn't seem to help my situation. I'm still getting the occasional very fine click/pop. I have an older macbookpro with Lion on it where Logic with the Ensemble have been working fine. It's been my savior! What's up with this freakin iMac Ensemble combo!

  • by eddwolf,

    eddwolf eddwolf Feb 25, 2013 12:03 AM in response to eddwolf
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    Feb 25, 2013 12:03 AM in response to eddwolf

    .... but, still not possible to do recording without clicks and pops!

  • by Eric Vo,

    Eric Vo Eric Vo Feb 26, 2013 6:25 AM in response to eddwolf
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    Feb 26, 2013 6:25 AM in response to eddwolf

    eddwolf, Did you mean that the iMac still had pops/clicks while recording or also your MBP?

     

    I also tried with my Middle 2009 MBP with Intel Core 2, 2,53Ghz, 8GB Ram, (OS= ML) No pops/clicks at all with buffersize 256 (havn't tried 128 but at 64 i cet a click every 4-5 minutes or so, this is not a problem 'cuse its not recommended with 64 samples with firewire interfaces, only PCI interfaces.

     

    With my Mid 2011 Mac Mini with 2,7Ghz Intel Core i7, 8GB Ram I get a click every 1-2 minute at 256 samples. At 1024 i still get pops/clicks (often 1 click within 1-8 minutes).

  • by eddwolf,

    eddwolf eddwolf Feb 26, 2013 6:36 AM in response to Eric Vo
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    Feb 26, 2013 6:36 AM in response to Eric Vo

    Hi, it's only the iMAC with clicks an pops! But the intensity and how often it clicks changes for a while if change the screen resolution or  the number of threads. After a short while the problem comes back. Maybe it has something to do with reinitializing of some HW-components. But anyway, still no way to work with the iMAC on ML.

    With my MBP there is no problem at all under ML!

    As far as I understood, your MBP has no problem either under ML?

  • by Eric Vo,

    Eric Vo Eric Vo Feb 26, 2013 6:51 AM in response to eddwolf
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    Feb 26, 2013 6:51 AM in response to eddwolf

    No problems at all with my MBP, ML and Ensemble.

     

    Seems that MBP's running fine with ML and Ensemble (Well 3 of 3 on this thread)

  • by Eric Vo,

    Eric Vo Eric Vo Mar 8, 2013 4:10 AM in response to raydawg
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    Mar 8, 2013 4:10 AM in response to raydawg

    Have anyone with this problem tried to connect the ensemble via an firewire to thunderbolt adapter? (if you have thunderbolt..)

  • by bogartpeanuts,

    bogartpeanuts bogartpeanuts Mar 8, 2013 11:40 AM in response to Eric Vo
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    Mar 8, 2013 11:40 AM in response to Eric Vo

    Hi Eric,

     

    Yes, I've tried. I went out and bought the silly adapter. It made no defference. But hey, Apple made some money from stupid me thinking this is going to make things better.

     

    I don't think they really care...  kind of sad - but it's a fact.

     

    cheers,

     

    bogartpeanuts

  • by eddwolf,

    eddwolf eddwolf Mar 8, 2013 11:03 PM in response to Eric Vo
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    Mar 8, 2013 11:03 PM in response to Eric Vo

    it works without problems on my MBP.

  • by eddwolf,

    eddwolf eddwolf Mar 15, 2013 4:04 AM in response to Eric Vo
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    Mar 15, 2013 4:04 AM in response to Eric Vo

    can't believe it but it looks like the problem has disapeared after OS-Update 10.8.3 !!!

    Still need some testing but during the last 2h I had no problem at all!

     

    Could you test and confirm this?

  • by eddwolf,

    eddwolf eddwolf Mar 15, 2013 4:06 AM in response to bogartpeanuts
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    Mar 15, 2013 4:06 AM in response to bogartpeanuts

    can't believe it but it looks like the problem has disapeared after OS-Update 10.8.3 !!!

    Still need some testing but during the last 2h I had no problem at all!

     

    Could you test and confirm this?

  • by bogartpeanuts,

    bogartpeanuts bogartpeanuts Mar 15, 2013 3:18 PM in response to eddwolf
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    Mar 15, 2013 3:18 PM in response to eddwolf

    I think they might of heard our cries! I just tried recording some stuff with Logic and my iMac 27 and so far I also have not heard any crackling on my recorded audio. Even at 64. Too bad I've just upgraded Ableton to Live 9 in all this frustration and I have been using it and really started loving it's workflow and simplicity - what a great program! Neverless, I still really like Logic and now that I saw that they still care about us I will go on using it. Just hope it stays stable! Thanks Apple for caring! Thanks eddwolf for letting me know...

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