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Wireless bridge to LW 12/640 via Airport Express/ethernet?

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Dec 27, 2011 10:46 AM

We recently switched to FiOS, which means they installed their own wireless router and created a new network. I want to keep printing to my trusty 12/640 PS laserwriter, but it's not really feasible to run a cable to the new router, which is now on a different floor. I've tried without success to configure and use an Airport Express (not Extreme) in "bridge" or "client" mode to extend the network but the system message keeps saying the new network cannot be extended. I thought I would then use a new 3rd party router to set up a separate wierless network just for the printer...but the fellow at the local Apple store said that the Express cannot connect with a printer at all via Ethernet, only USB.

 

  • Will a USB-to-Ethernet adapter do the trick? If so, do they come in differnt configurations that I shoulsd watch for?
  • Or is there some other way to get this to work short of spending money I do not have on still more hardware?
  • Or am I reduced to drilling a hole in the floor?

 

Thanks in advance! Bill

  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (48,105 points)

    the fellow at the local Apple store said that the Express cannot connect with a printer at all via Ethernet, only USB.

    The fellow at the Apple store needs broader and more general training. He is answering based on what Printers are available in the store today, not your good High-End Apple Printer.

     

    When you put an Ethernet printer on your network, as long as it is on the same subnet, the Router does not intervene (although its Switch may forward the packets, depending on network topology).. The data goes directly through your Ntwork, from your Macs to the Printer. To ensure it is on the same subnet, it should have an address in the same range as the other devices, e.g., if all are using 192.168.xxx.yyy addresses, the Printer should be using an Address in the range as well.

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  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (48,105 points)

    Could you please describe:

     

    Where is the Router

    Where is the printer

    What computer is near the Printer (if any), and how is that computer connected to the Network

     

    The LaserWriter 12/640PS is an Ethernet Level 2 Printer with built-in LPD/LPR. Once it assigned an Ethernet Address, it can stand by itself as  Network device.

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  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (48,105 points)

    So the Verizon Router is also producing Cable-TV, and you are NOT using FIOS?

     

    So the Router is tied to a position near the TV set?

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  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (48,105 points)

    In the Boston area FIOS gives you an Optical Network Terminator, which can be mounted just outside or just inside your basement. From that comes:

     

    Cable-TV cable,

    100Base-T Ethernet,

    One to four regular phone lines.

     

    We connected out cable-TV directly from the Optical Network Terminal. For us, the only reason you need a connection of cable-TV cable on the Router box is to send Pay-per-View requests back from the [TV] set-top-box onto the Internet. We don't use Pay-per-View, so I left that disconnected.

     

    What I am leading up to is, "Do you really have to have the Router where it is?"

     

    The Ethernet cable from the Optical Network Terminal to the Router can be up to 100 meters long. Can you accomplish anything by moving the Router?

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  • LexSchellings Level 5 Level 5 (5,485 points)

    I can not understand this thread, but I am practically sure that a Airport Express to extend the network will not work, outside the apple products there are so few routers that it will connect to successfully...

    When you use the AE as Acess point for the printer, mmm, I am not sure...

  • Jan Hedlund Level 6 Level 6 (8,880 points)

    Hi Bill,

     

    One or two dedicated wireless Ethernet bridge devices (also known as gaming adapters) could possibly be of help in this case. Alternatively a powerline network connection (via the electrical wires).

     

    Also, the part about ProxySTA in the following article may be of interest:

     

    http://www.macworld.com/article/132754/2008/03/express11n.html

     

    Jan

  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 8 Level 8 (48,105 points)

    The WirelessSTA paragraph makes reference to "Relay" and "Remote" set-ups of Base Stations. These are descibed in this article:

     

    Wi-Fi base stations: Setting up and configuring a Wireless Distribution System (802.11b/g)  

     

    I was able to set up a "Relay" (over Ethernet) using an antique graphite Base Station and the FIOS/Actiontec Router.

    On the Relay Base Station:

    Turn NAT OFF.

    Turn DHCP OFF.

    Be sure Bridge is checked.

    When operating OK, set to the same channel and give it the same Network Name.

     

     

    You may need a stumbler program to see what channel the FIOS Router is using, if it is set to automatic. Default (if no interference) is channel 6.

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  • bigmike78 Calculating status...

    You can have Verizon change your ONT type to ethernet and connect what ever router you want.

  • LexSchellings Level 5 Level 5 (5,485 points)

    Again: this is way above my head, but: can the iMacs etc see each other and communicate/share things? If yes, did you try to connect the printer to the first floor iMac (where it was in the first place) and use a sharing solution like Airprintactivator or Printopia? Wouldn't that work?

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