Can I import AVCHD to iMovie and edit

Hi - new to this, but have just been bought Panasonic HDC-SD800 HD camcorder. Before I play with it, the instructions suggest that the only format I can use with imovie11 is 'i frame' which is 960x540/25p. As I already have a similar 'standard' canon camcorder with similar definition, is there any point in keeping the new Panasonic. Am I missing something here, or is this 'new' Panasonic just not Mac friendly?

Posted on Jan 1, 2012 8:42 AM

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Jan 1, 2012 11:10 AM in response to johnfromnew malden

You can import AVCHD at up to 1920x1080 at 30P (30 progressive frames per second) or 30i (30 interlaced frames per second). 30i is sometimes referred to as 60i because there are two interlaced fields per frame, so 60 fields per second. (For PAL countries substitute 25P, 25i, etc.)


Your camcorder may also shoot 60P. iMovie will not import this, but there are people on here who have found ways of editing the PList files to enable importing 60P. It takes a bit of computer savvy but is possible.


I have a Panasonic, and they work great with Macs.


You should know that AVCHD is a highly compressed codec. On import, iMovie will convert it to Apple Intermediate Codec for editing, which may be 6 to 10 times bigger than the AVCHD files on the camera. You should probably have one or more large external hard drives available if you are going to edit AVCHD.

Jan 1, 2012 2:11 PM in response to AppleMan1958

Thank You so much AppleMan1958 for reply - (and Happy New Year)


'Codec' argghhh foreign language to this non computer savvy ordinary bloke ! However, large external hard drives are not a problem.


But reply is brilliant - reading through destructions again - and apparently I can record in 1080/50p (UK), so does this mean that I can go 'HD' with this rather than iframe (never heard of until I opened the book)

Is imovie OK with this?


As you probably gather, I am no computer whizz, but am sort of OK playing around in Aperture & imovie in an amateur sort of way. All my video work is purely home movie stuff, family, holidays and dogs etc, so there are 'limitations' on my needs but of course my dreams have no limits. Am I worrying about nothing.


Failing further reply, I shall be throwing myself at the mercy of our local Apple store for advice but I suspect you actually know far more and will tell me I should go with the 1080/50p option.


Thank You once again.

Jan 1, 2012 3:39 PM in response to johnfromnew malden

You can record in 50i which your camera may call 25i, and you can also use 25P. You cannot use 50P without doing some fairly technical stuff and feeling comfortable with it. You don't really need 50P unless you want to shoot some really smooth slow motion of action footage.


When you convert images to a format that can be stored digitally, that is called coding (to store it) and decoding (to play it back) so the software that does that is called a codec.


I think you will enjoy iMovie. You can do a lot very quickly and make really good looking movies.

Good luck.

Jan 2, 2012 3:20 AM in response to AppleMan1958

Sorry AM1958 - still bit confused.

I have been back to the shop (John Lewis) and they are happy to do full refund if I wish.

Have been to Apple Shop and they say this 'new' model is not on the compatable list but that other free downloads may allow me to convert AVCHD.


To quote the camera manual-


"This unit is based on AVCHD format/MPEG-4 AVC file format.

Video signals for the AVCHD that can be played back with this unit are 1920x1080/50i, 1920x1080/25p and 1440x1080/50i.

Video signals for the iFrame that can be played back with this unit are 960x540/25p


When motion picture is recorded in iFrame format

You can play back on Mac (iMovie11)

It is not compatable with motion pictures recorded in AVCHD format."


It is also possible to record in 1920x1080/50p at maximum quality.


Quote-

"The scenes recorded in 1080/50p can be saved or played back by this unit or the HD writer AE 3.0"


From the above, can I move HD from this unit into iMovie and edit without too much hassle or do I return it and stick with the perfectly decent 5 year old Sony not in HD that just 'works'. I have happily played with iMovie for 3 years and want to be able to tidy up family videos.


AM1958 - you have been great so far, sorry to seem a bit of a numpty, but you seem to know far more on this than either the camera shop or the Apple store. (really helpful people and I love the place)


Thanks.

Jan 2, 2012 5:24 AM in response to johnfromnew malden

If you have the camera, your best bet is to shoot a minute of footage with it and see if it will import to iMovie. I think it will. Check your owners manual for recording mode. You should have several choices, including 50P, 50i, 25P and iFrame. If you choose 50i, 25P, or iFrame, it will work with iMovie. If you choose 50P, it will not be editable in iMovie without some bit twiddling. I think you will like 25P the best, but if you are shooting sports, you should also try 50i. In fact, try it anyway so you get to see both and choose the one you prefer.

iFrame produces movies that will look almost as good as the AVCHD (you probably will not be able to tell the difference) but the import is much quicker, and the fill sizes are much smaller.


Let me seeif I can decipher the manual for you.



"This unit is based on AVCHD format/MPEG-4 AVC file format.

Video signals for the AVCHD that can be played back with this unit are 1920x1080/50i, 1920x1080/25p and 1440x1080/50i. Video signals for the iFrame that can be played back with this unit are 960x540/25p

Like I said, stick to 50i or 25P if you want to edit in iMovie and/or play back on a TV set. Use 1920x1080 for highest quality (but this will also be the biggest file size. 50i and 25P are about the same in file size. (50P would be 4 times bigger in file size - but do not use 50P mode if you want to edit it.)




When motion picture is recorded in iFrame format

You can play back on Mac (iMovie11)

It is not compatable with motion pictures recorded in AVCHD format."

This means basically that you can edit and play on the Mac. From there you can share to a Blu Ray, DVD, Apple TV, iPod, iPad, iPhone, the Web, etc. etc. The key message is that you cannot edit the iFrame on a Windows computer.




It is also possible to record in 1920x1080/50p at maximum quality.


Quote-

"The scenes recorded in 1080/50p can be saved or played back by this unit or the HD writer AE 3.0"

It is possible to record in 50P at maximum quality, but what they are telling you is that you will be limited to playing it back on the camera. Television sets will not play 50P. iMovie will not natively edit 50P. I assume the HD writer AE 3.0 is a proprietary Panasonic disc burning program. It is likely Windows only, so it will not work on your Mac.


If you want to edit 50P on your Mac, here is an excellent blog post on how to do it. You can judge for yourself whether you feel comfortable doing it.




From the above, can I move HD from this unit into iMovie and edit without too much hassle or do I return it and stick with the perfectly decent 5 year old Sony not in HD that just 'works'. I have happily played with iMovie for 3 years and want to be able to tidy up family videos.



If I were you, I would keep it and shoot at 25P. I think you will really like the HD quality.


Keep in mind that if your final result is DVD, then evertying will be converted back to standard definition anyway. You will need to find new ways to share your results with your family.


The Apple TV is a great way to do this. Also YouTube does a great job these days making it easy to share 1080P video with friends and family. Finally, you can invest in a BluRay device. I don't generally recommend this, because if you want to give copies to family or friends, they would need a BluRay player as well.

There are a lot of nuances to BluRay. Come back and ask if you want to go that route.


Good luck.

Jan 2, 2012 5:57 AM in response to AppleMan1958

Thanks - you're a star.


Time & work constarints mean that I can't try out any of this today, but will give 25P & 50i a try and see what happens. (not sure what the differences are between the two but - hey, I'll play and see what happens)


I do have Apple TV, so that is already available.


Thanks for all your help - you've spent far more time and effort on your replies than I had to spend placing the question. Browsing through, it's clear that I am not the first - and probably won't be the last, to be confused.


I'll post back here when I've had a chance to experiment, and let you and others 'like me' know how it goes.


Thanks again

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