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Creative X-Fi Surround 5.1 on iMac 10.7

I just wanted to "give back" after trolling for weeks on getting my (external) USB Creative X-Fi Surround working on my iMac.


Issue: I wanted to use my Logitech THX speakers on my 27" iMac but the X-5300's don't have TOSLink inputs and I still like my Z-5300's. I also wanted to keep sound coming out of the built-in speakers on my iMac, so I knew I had to go the USB soundcard route. I never found all this information in the same place, so I wanted to share what I finally worked out.


My surround solution: Frys had refurbushed USB Creative X-Fi Surround 5.1 units for $15 over the holidays, so I picked up one hoping it would be the solution.


My MAC detected the X-Fi USB soundcard but I had the same problems others had reported (5.1 sound didn't work) and I couldn't get the built-in speakers working at the same time.


Here's what I did, and now I have 5.1 sound working correctly AND I have sound coming from my built-in speakers simultaneously.


To get 5.1 Surround sound working:


*) You must connect your surround speakers to the Green/Yellow/Black 3.5mm connections on the X-Fi Surround 5.1 device!!!

1) Utilities >> Audio MIDI Setup >> Audio Devices ... find " SB X-Fi Surround 5.1" output device (you likely have two listed, one will be input only and the other is output)


2) Set the Source to "External Digital Audio Interface" and make sure the encoding is one of the 6ch options "6ch-16bit Integer" or "6ch-24bit Integer"


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3) Click Configure Speakers button, select Multichannel and then "5.1 Surround" from the drop down list on the right and click apply

(be sure you verify each speaker, my Logitech z-5300 channels didn't match up with the defaults)

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4) Once you click done, double or right click the "SB X-Fi Surround 5.1" and select the bottom two options to use the X-Fi Surround device

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5) Once this is done fire up iTunes or your favorite music app and you should have standard audio coming from the speakers hooked up to the X-Fi plus you will have 5.1 surround audio for surround-enabled audio sources


To get more than one audio output device going simultaneously (ie X-Fi Surround + Built-in Speakers):


1) Utilities >> Audio MIDI Setup >> "+" on the lower left and select "Create Multi-Output Device"


2) Set the Master Device to the "Built-in Output" {trust me} and check the "use" boxes for your USB soundcard and the Built-in Output audio devices


3) Click "Configure Speakers..." and be sure it is set to "Multichannel" "Stereo" and apply it -- this is pushes sound to selected audio devices simultaneously


4) Click on the > beside "Multi-Output Device" to expand the details on the associated devices and verify the settings for the audio devices (make sure the X-Fi is still 6ch-24bit Integer and the speaker channels are correct)


4a) You may want to adjust the volume of the built-in speakers by sliding the volume level for ch1/2 to your desired setting

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5) Once you are satisfied with the settings, double or right-click the "Multi-Output Device" and set it as the sound device and enjoy sound from your surround speakers and the built-in speakers at the same time!

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5a) You can alternatively select this new audio device from the Sounds menu in System Preferences.



Observations:


The volume knob on the X-Fi doesn't work in OSX as advertised. I push up the volume on the built-in speakers inside the multi-output audio device to a level that lets me still hear iTunes and system sounds when I turn off the Logitech Z-5300 speakers. This lets me still manage the sound volume and have all the speakers working as desired.


I have noticed in a couple of movies that I've watched that I had to switch to the dedicated SB X-Fi Surround device to get actual surround sound. Looks like it's a function of which Dolby/THX encoding is used on the movie I am watching. Pretty easy to toggle back and forth and I don't have to restart anything to change the audio output.


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Hopefully this helps some who might have been trying to get something similiar setup on their MAC.

I really like some of the SPDIF/TOSLink DAC's out there, but this setup worked for what I was trying to do and it only cost me the X-Fi Surround USB "card".


Please pardon any typos or gaffes


-- Vegas

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jan 2, 2012 5:12 PM

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Dec 15, 2013 8:58 AM in response to Vegas_7

I am so glad to see this. I'm new to Mac's, just recieved my imac 27" and I have an older logitech z-640 5.1 surround speaker system that works awesome (have been using it on older pc's and has true 5.1 with the proper card) that I wanted to use, so far, no way, until I found this post. I'll order the Creative X unit and give it a go. Thanks again Vegas7!!! I'll try and report back when I have the unit hooked up.

Dec 25, 2013 11:46 AM in response to Vegas_7

Ok Here we go... I purchased this external sound card, setup was painless, with it recognizing the card and under "configure speakers" the test for EACH speaker works! BUT when I play a dvd, I have no rear speaker sound nor do I have center chanel sound. I am using the Logitec Z-640 speakers which work perfectly in the chanel setup.. Has anyone got any ideas????

Feb 23, 2014 2:07 PM in response to Vegas_7

Vegas - thanks for this. I have been wrestling with Mac audio for over 6 years - since switching from Windows machines.


I want to be clear - with this setup you are able to get iTunes to play music (not 5.1 encoded movies - normal tracks) through all six speakers?


I have a Hercules USB sound card that will drive my speakers (I can get to the speaker config - they all test fine), but only the L/R ones are in use when itunes plays. Don't care about movies (I never watch movies on the mac - but I DO want full surround sound from my logitech X-530. Under boot camp - they sound great. Under Mac osx - they are 2.0 speakers ;-(


The only difference in the audio midi setup is that the Hercules card shows 'Source' as 'default' and there is no drop down menu.


So is the creative upmixing the 2ch streams coming from itunes? Can you adjust channel volume separately?

Feb 24, 2014 8:27 PM in response to Vegas_7

Well, I gave up on getting my Mac to upconvert 2ch into 5. Replaced my X-530s with Z506 speaker which do the upconversion in speaker. They sound great. They work in true 5.1 with my cheapo USB sound card (Hercules), but for the most part, I am just listening to tunes - in full rich surround. Simple.


Hey apple - can I get a couple hundred hours of my life back trying to get your machine to 'just work' like (this same imac) does when running Windows! ;-)

Aug 24, 2014 5:17 PM in response to Vegas_7

Fantastic.


This fix worked beautifully for me.

Hunted around a lot on the net trying to find a way to link up my old Creative Inspire 6.1 6700 speakers to a new iMac.

Got all the speakers wired up around the study and am now happily bathed in sound from my iMac without needing to resort to buying and wiring up a new set.

Haven't tested movie surround sound yet (The 5.1 speaker sound tests are all working - so 5.1 with a movie should be fine) - but just to sit and get some proper decibels through iTunes is enough to make me write a thank-you.


Thank you very much indeed Vegas ! 🙂

Feb 23, 2015 4:55 PM in response to Vegas_7

Hi all!

I've got:

-iMac 27 MC814

-USB Sound Card: Creative (SB 1095) X-Fi 5.1 Pro

-Speaker set: Creative G550W


So, I don't remember, how I done 5.1, but I totally remember, that it was crazy manual about apps Soundflower + AU Lab + X-Fi = it's still work. I'd created some profile in this apps and now in Output: Soundflower 2ch and in Input SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro. Aaaand I've really have 5.1 sound, but don't know, is it trustly 5.1...but got music from social network (browser), iTunes and etc from 5 speakers and subwoofer. Ok. And also I can controll volume level from keyboard (master volume).


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Today I'd looked through my Mac settings and thought, why it was done so strange on my Mac, why in Soundflower 2 channel profile and really I've got 5.1, because input and output status looks strange... Why in output Soundflower? In output I've got built in speakers and hdmi-on-TV sound, I'd thought, that here is "physical" items, different "ends" and here should be X-Fi sound card (that named like External bla bla interface). And input - from where sound come in - line In or etc. And also - Soundflower got itself like input too...combined device by default? With input and output?


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So I googled this post and make exactly like topic starter said - and by this settings have:

-2ch (left and right front) sound in all apps, movies, music

-no master volume (disabled keyboard up and down volume)


Changing channels on speakers in 5.1 mode of External Digital Audio Interface - nothing changes, always sound from frontal speakers.


So my way - is Soundflower + AU Lab?)) And don't touch it? I just don't want to waste my Mac with strange soft and configurations, about which I can forget, but want to have 5.1 + master sound control... what I've need to do? Does AirPort Express solve my problem? With Z550W I think not, because it has no optical input( If I got another Creative\Logitech will be somewhere sound transformated in 5.1? Or I will need something like Soundflower + AULab to create 5.1 stream from stereo (or what that aps do...)

Jun 9, 2015 2:18 PM in response to djkwiati

I got similar problem. Genius 5000 5.1 soundsystem, Creative X-Fi sound card. Everything set up according to the instructions.

When I open "configure speakers" in Audio Midi setup, I can test and hear them all one by one. As soon as I use itunes, vlc or play music from web it comes only trough front left and right speaker (no center, sub, rear :/).


The closest I could get to using all 5 speakers was:

1. using soundflower 2.1 channel and mixing sound (2.1 sound in all 5 speakers)

2. using 1 jack from speakers directly to mac (2.1 sound in all 5 speakers) - and the sound is the same without using the sound card


Is there anything better to get real 5.1 with this setup? Thanks

Creative X-Fi Surround 5.1 on iMac 10.7

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