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JuR-97 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I totally understand that you might don't want to work with third parties, but i've understood that Adobe has pretty good reputation and so on. I think they would gladly cooperate with Apple adding this support to safari. I now many of my friends have been also thinking in this, and on iPad it becomes a big problem on some sites. This is the only thing that I hate on my iPad, iPhone and iPod. Yea, I can live without them but sometimes it ****** me of... And I think this would also affect greatly on your sales... Android has the support, iOS doesn't.

 

Too closed source, hu?


iPad 2, iOS 5.0.1
  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (12,120 points)

    There is no version of Flash that is compatible with IOS devices and there never will be.  Give it up.

  • rbrylawski Level 6 Level 6 (11,815 points)

    You might want to read about this (either look on the right for similar subjects, or just type Flash in the search bar and you'll see thousands of posts on this topic).  When you say Adobe would gladly cooperate with Apple, they were unsuccessful in making a version of Flash that was acceptable to Apple and they have since given up.  In fact, if you don't already know this, Adobe is giving up supporting Flash for ALL mobile platforms, Adroid included.  Flash is in essence dying.  HTML5 is much more stable and will over time become the norm on all devices.

  • JuR-97 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Still, almost all of the biggest games are implemented using Flash. As we know the iPad browser does support Canvas and jQuery but they will never reach the quality of functions and animations that Flash has. And still, the Flash is used greatly in forms, competitions and all online stuff, yes you could use PHP or JS, but they use Flash because it doesn't require any (with caution) experience of coding. And, tell me you really think you can create as impressive things using HTML5 as using Flash.

    And, the fact Apple didn't accept the Adobe Flash to App Store might be just some kind of cautiones of Apple. Are there any kind of a holes that hackers can find and breach? Is it safe? Yep, maybe it isn't, but as well HTML5 or any other web coding language isn't as we noticed last year when they found (in fact, started to think about it more carefully) the possibility to crash the server using one command phrase send to the server. And yes I know Adobe has had some problems with their PDF's. That might lower a bit their security classification. But still PDF supported on iOS devices?

     

    I know you won't never get the actual real Flash support on iPad or any iOS device legally. Do you think Apple creates their own kind-of-a-flash?

  • JuR-97 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    sorry, wrote apple when ment adobe at one sentence :p

    (kind of a cautiones of Adobe)

  • paulcb Level 6 Level 6 (19,090 points)

    Do you think Apple creates their own kind-of-a-flash?

    No.

  • JuR-97 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    How do you think we will create the mobile compatible graphic web applications in the future? Yes, I'm asking your own opinion. I've my own and it's mixing up jQuery and CSS3 along the HTML5

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (25,660 points)

    JuR-97 wrote:

     

    And, the fact Apple didn't accept the Adobe Flash to App Store might be just some kind of cautiones of Apple.

    This is not a "fact". This is the opposite of a "fact". Adobe never submitted Flash to the App Store. Apple asked Adobe to bring Flash to the iPad and Adobe either refused or could not get it working. Adobe is now abandonning Flash altogether for mobile platforms.

  • paulcb Level 6 Level 6 (19,090 points)

    I have no technical opinion or experience with that.  As long as it's secure, stable, fast and doesn't use too much processor, I'm OK with it.

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (25,660 points)

    PS: Flash is not a complete failure on the iPad. Adobe did manage to get parts of it to work. In return, Apple relaxed the rules for App submission so that Apps built with Flash would be acceptable.

  • JuR-97 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes I am not so familiar with this thing - but it is a fact there is no flash in the App Store, right.

     

    And I just read an article about the Adobe and Apple (on Apple's site) and I have totally changed my opinion about the cautiones. Do you personally have an idea to which language are we going in the future of mobile compatible graphical web development?

  • PogoPossum Level 4 Level 4 (2,505 points)

    but it is a fact there is no flash in the App Store, right.

     

    Even if there was a working version of Flash for iOS, it wouldn't be in the app store. Flash is a plug-in that is installed to work in an web-browser - it's not a standalone app.

  • JuR-97 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes I understand that but there could be a browser that has this plug-in preinstalled. But there isn't.

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (25,660 points)

    JuR-97 wrote:

     

    Yes I am not so familiar with this thing - but it is a fact there is no flash in the App Store, right.

    There is no "Flash App" on any platform or operating system. Flash is a browser plug-in. On MacOS X or Windows, a user can download and install it themselves. On the iPad, Apple would have to include it with the iOS operating system. Viewing PDF files in Mobile Safari, for example, requires a similar browser plug-in. Adobe would have to write such a browser plug-in and work with their contacts at Apple to get it shipped with iOS. Apple asked Adobe to do that but Adobe has never delivered it.

     

    There are apps on the App Store made with Flash, but they do not support video.

     

    And I just read an article about the Adobe and Apple (on Apple's site) and I have totally changed my opinion about the cautiones. Do you personally have an idea to which language are we going in the future of mobile compatible graphical web development?

     

    HTML5 and Javascript.

  • fheim3 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have used a app called Photon Flash Web Browser and it will let me see items that require Flash. It works well for me.

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