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cashaww Level 1 (120 points)

I have been trying to do this for years, but have not been able to because Aperture does not seem to handle large scan neg files.  What I mean by large files are 800mb and up.  After editing they can be almost 2Gbs.  Lightroom does not seem to have a problem, but Aperture just seems to choke.  I have tried import single projects, and files at a time, but no go.  Lightroom 4 Beta has just come out, so I wonder if I should even worry. 

  • CalxOddity Level 3 (685 points)

    that *is* large!  What size are the negs?

  • cashaww Level 1 (120 points)

    Some are Medium Format, 6x45 - 6x9, some are Large Format, 4x5-8x10.  I know they are large so this makes me wonder if this problem is a size issue.  For my Digital, or 35mm formats, no worries.

  • Chamar Level 4 (2,105 points)

    Why are you going from Lightroom to Aperture?

     

    Stick with Lightroom and maybe go for Photoshop.  What sort of Mac are you trying to do this on?

  • cashaww Level 1 (120 points)

    Since me OS is, and therefore 90% of my workflow is Mac based it makes since to me.  I website is build using iWeb, I do project books using Apple.  Updating to my facebook, flicker,  are all easier using Aperture.  I like the Face and places functions.  I prefer the way Aperture handles projects.  Over all, it is a better workflow for me. Now trust me, there are a couple of things Aperture can learn from Lightroom, but on balance, and at the end of the day, I think Aperture will work best for me. 

     

    I am testing Lightroom Beta 4.

  • cashaww Level 1 (120 points)

    The main reasons I stick with Lightroom are, it seems to be able to handle my larger files.  Also I can use more than one external editing program, while Aperture limits me, from what I know, to only one.

  • SierraDragon Level 4 (2,695 points)

    Apple has a superior workflow but requires strong hardware. Please specify hardware, RAM, and how full (in %) each hard drive is. Also where the Library is located, how it is connected, and whether managed or referenced files.

     

    -Allen

  • cashaww Level 1 (120 points)

    Which system my Quad4 G5 with 16gbs of memory, and roughly 80% of boot drive available.  The iMac 2.5 Intel Core i5 w/ 12 Gb of memory w/ roughly 70% of the boot drive available.  The entire Aperture, as well as Lightroom Library sits on a 18Tbs Drobo systems connected by firewire 800.  I have done the relevant Ping Testing of the Drobo system, so trust me, it is not a hardware issue.  All files are referenced.  My hardware is set up the way we set things up on a Unix system, as much data as possible is kept off the boot drive.

     

    If you are suggesting a hardware issue, then Aperture is a hog, while Lightroom is not.  Based on what I deduce, Aperture has issues with certain sized files, and if it is referenced, I can not see why it should. 

  • cashaww Level 1 (120 points)

    I only use Lightroom, and Aperture as photo managers, and light editing.  My heavy editing is done in Photoshop. I use Nikon Nx2 for basic colour correction, and this is one of the reasons, outside of the choking issue, I stay with Lightroom, I can use two external editors.  In Aperture only one.

  • SierraDragon Level 4 (2,695 points)

    cashaww wrote:

     

    If you are suggesting a hardware issue, then Aperture is a hog, while Lightroom is not.

     

    Yes, Aperture is a hog. IMO not a bad thing for a pro graphics app when strong hardware is readily available.

     

    You did not specify graphics. Strong GPU support is important to Aperture.

     

    I do not know what specifically bottlenecks with extra-large files.

     

    What happens with a single one of your large files on the internal drive with Aperture, the Master and the Library on the internal drive?

     

    Personally I put Aperture and the Aperture Library on a boot SSD; Masters also on the SSD until editing is complete.

     

    If you have a fast Aperture/Drobo operation it is the first I have heard of. Ping results do not interest me, I am interested in Aperture performance.

     

    -Allen

  • léonie Level 10 (90,815 points)

    and this is one of the reasons, outside of the choking issue, I stay with Lightroom, I can use two external editors.  In Aperture only one.

     

    You can only define one default external editor, but you can use more than one editor: there are editing plug-ins, and you can call other image editors using Services.

     

    For example:

    I have the Aperture preferences set to use GraphicConverter as external editor, but when I want to edit in Photoshop, I use an Automator Service like this, and activate it from the Aperture -> Services menu:

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    The AppleScript passes the images to Photoshop and waits for the edit to finish, the reimports the edited images to Aperture.

     

    I put the workflow and the script on this webpage for download: http://dreschler-fischer.de/FAQ/Scripts_Services/Entries/2012/1/12_Additional_Ex ternal_Editor_in_Aperture.html

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • SierraDragon Level 4 (2,695 points)

    leonieDF wrote:


    I put the workflow and the script on this webpage for download: http://dreschler-fischer.de/FAQ/Scripts_Services/Entries/2012/1/12_Additional_Ex ternal_Editor_in_Aperture.html

     

    Regards

    Léonie

     

    Nice. Thanks for that.

     

    -Allen

  • Allan Eckert Level 9 (50,709 points)

    I concur with Allen. I have yet to hear of anyone being able to use a Drobo and get any kind of performacne with it.

     

    Allan

  • cashaww Level 1 (120 points)

    Thank you.  I will give this a try.

  • cashaww Level 1 (120 points)

    What performance, I am editing photos.  If I was editing video, then I see the point.  The Drobo is nothing more than a descent little RAID system used for storage.  But still, Lightroom does not have this issue.

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