Should I use google chrome on my macbook pro?

Chrome is a web browser put out by Google which has a particular interest in recording everything one does on the net as they are a advertising company and sell your information to others for a profit.

Google has a lot of free stuff, but it's used to data mine.

I use Firefox for it's huge amount of add-ons, especially No-Script (which only Firefox has) which is the best web defense against malicious websites you can get.

Firefox is more of a "users" browser, it's highly customizable and there are add-ons to do all sorts of things.

I don't use Safari because Apple doesn't pay enough attention to it giving people choice, forces you it do it "their way" and is just depressingly gray.

On Windows Safari is the browser that comes in LAST place, on Windows Firefox is the browser that comes in first place, although Chrome is a close second.

On Mac's Safari is king, just like IE is still king on Windows because it's bundled with OS X.

Safari is also the fastest on OS X, because Apple provides Safari with a little extra OS X horsepower API's that other browsers don't have access too.

So for speed Safari is fastest on Mac's, but for most user choice and control, Firefox is king.

I'm older and hard of seeing so I need to be able to scale my web pages and the font size of the browser itself, I can do that with Firefox and not with Safari.

Also you can see I choose a persona that gives a lot of contrast for the type, white and black show well on the light blue, as it's hard to see the black on the grey of Safari.

Why Apple is in love with grey so much is beyond me. It's depressing.

ds store wrote:

I don't use Safari because Apple doesn't pay enough attention to it giving people choice, forces you it do it "their way"

Apple is a controlling company..They want to give the users as least amount of control as possible with all products they sell. That was SJ's envision anyway, according to the Walter Isaacson bio. Side note, but thought it was worthy of bringing up. Sorry to the OP for going off topic.

I'm not fond of grey myself -- I was happier with the early OS X Aqua scheme, and if I'm not going to be able to change the scheme myself, I'd rather Apple had picked something other than grey.

That said, there's a sound reason to limit user customization: it keeps the code cleaner and simpler than throwing in a multitude of options. From the standpoint of reliability, simpler is better.

Well I think you two made the connection why Apple uses so much gray, because it is depressing and controlling color, like Soviet era or Nazi uniforms.

People in sunny Florida paint their houses cheerful shades of light pastels with white trim, in the Caribbean they are even more colorful, using bright flamboyant multi-colors even.

Of course the climates where Apple likely sells most of their hardware, Europe, North America and China, are for the most part of the time gray and overcast, depressing and controlling. People wear black, they drive gray/white or black cars and paint their houses shades of gray or earth tone Cape Cod like colors.

there's a sound reason to limit user customization: it keeps the code cleaner and simpler than throwing in a multitude of options. From the standpoint of reliability, simpler is better.

Not exactly, simpler takes less effort to keep it more reliable, it's a question of applying appropriate resources.

Chrome and Firefox are reliable and have a multiple of options, they also apply more effort.

Apple is controlling because they are lazy and it's easier to say "No, this is how it's going to be" rather than say "Yes, we have the resources to accommodate you"

For a luxury computer products company Apple is far off the mark, you stroll in and want to buy a expensive piece of Apple hardware and they are all over you, but ask Apple to do a simple thing like being able to change the gray to another color or increase the UI font size and they b*itch "our way keeps the code cleaner"

It's like going to buy a Escalade and having the dealer tell you you can only have putrid green because it's easier to paint all the SUV's one color. 🙂

"Of course the climates where Apple likely sells most of their hardware, Europe, North America and China, are for the most part of the time gray and overcast, depressing and controlling."

I don't know where you've been in Europe or the USA, ds store, and I know very little about the weather in China. But if you actually believe this ridiculous generalization, you've certainly missed a lot. Sounds to me as though you don't like Apple and are remaking the climates of whole continents to conform with your peevish convictions.

why? for mac is better Safari!

if you have some problem with safari

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2521

I use it on all my computer operating system. OS X, Windows and Linux. Just wish they had chrome for Android.

ok, so you can download chrome here for mac

http://google-chrome.softonic.it/mac

i hope so, help you ;-)

ds store wrote:

Well I think you two made the connection why Apple uses so much gray, because it is depressing and controlling color, like Soviet era or Nazi uniforms.

Bit early in the thread for Godwins law isn't it?

@ds store, I agree with some of your points, but have to call you out on a few... 🙂

I'm older and hard of seeing so I need to be able to scale my web pages and the font size of the browser itself, I can do that with Firefox and not with Safari.

What's preventing you from scaling your text in Safari?

Safari's View menu has options to zoom in/out, as well as the option to zoom only text (leaving images at their same size).

In addition you can set a minimum point size in preferences, so text never dispays smaller than that size.

Plus, if you have a modern machine/trackpad you can use a three-finger pinch to dynamically zoom in/out.

Safari is also the fastest on OS X, because Apple provides Safari with a little extra OS X horsepower API's that other browsers don't have access too.

You have evidence of this, or are you just speculating?

As for your points on Firefox, it probably is the most customizable browser (although I wouldn't call it the "user's" browser, per se.... maybe the geek's), but that customization does come at a cost. I work with many web developers who bemoan the (lack of) speed of Firefox, especially when you have a number of plugins enabled.

Camelot wrote:

What's preventing you from scaling your text in Safari?

1: Safari doesn't remember per site web scaling like Firefox and NoSquint add-on does (or perhaps now it does?) so I have to scale each time which is too much work.

2: Even if I could do #1 in Safari, I can't change the size of Safari's text on the menu itself, like I can with Firefox and Theme Font & Size Changer.

3: Also I need more contrast so I know what I'm clicking on, Safari has black text on gray with no option to change it, Firefox I can set the persona to a color and the type color so it stands out better.

Safari's View menu has options to zoom in/out, as well as the option to zoom only text (leaving images at their same size).

I don't like that, just the text being larger as it throws off webpages, buttons disappear etc.

Rather have full page scaling, which Safari also does, just doesn't remmeber it.

In addition you can set a minimum point size in preferences, so text never dispays smaller than that size.

Tried that, didn't work out, too many pages thrown off.

Plus, if you have a modern machine/trackpad you can use a three-finger pinch to dynamically zoom in/out.

Trackpads s*ck, I only use it in a emergency. Mouse is better. a five customizable wireless mouse with scroll ball, charging cradle is awesome.

You have evidence of this, or are you just speculating?

You can find out online the latest browser shootouts, I think Ars Tech, or Slashdot.

As for your points on Firefox, it probably is the most customizable browser (although I wouldn't call it the "user's" browser, per se.... maybe the geek's), but that customization does come at a cost. I work with many web developers who bemoan the (lack of) speed of Firefox, especially when you have a number of plugins enabled.

Must have been a older version of Firefox.

I've got a Early 2011 MBP 17" with a fast video card, 20 mps and enabled the FF broadband tweaks, my pages load in about 2 seconds on average, I could have a 100 add-ons and it wouldn't mean diddly to me.

People install what add-ons they can accept if there is a performance issue on slower machines, but at least there is a choice scale as one can accept.

Ironically, some of my add-ons actually speed up web page redraws because I don't have ads, scripts, pop-ups and other garbage running all the time.

Last time I check Safari still allows pop-unders, how annoying. 🙂

Actually as far choosing, it's a personal choice. I prefer Chrome for the syncing ability seeing as I use 2 Win7 pc's and a Macbook pro. There's only one glaring issue; I've noticed this with Win and Mac versions. Ram usage. Chrome drinks RAM like an alcoholic (no offense intended). Safari doesn't. If you have 8GB of RAM, you're ok. If you have 4GB like myself currently, Chrome will make your Mac slow as ****. At least it did for me. Mileage may vary.

Just my .02

I agree with you completely and that's why I stick with Firefox as my browser of choice. I thinnk Safari is ugly. Period.

babblingbrook wrote:

I agree with you completely and that's why I stick with Firefox as my browser of choice. I thinnk Safari is ugly. Period.

Safari is ugly and after having tried Chrome, I don't like it's all controling nature either.

Why do I have to register to download add-ons for Chrome?

Why does Chrome run a ROOT level auto-updater? What if it gets compromised?

Chrome is a mega RAM hog and it does too much many of the add-ons spy on people

For privacy there is the new Epic Privacy browser, based upon Chromium, but one has to enable a few extra in the preferences to delete data and click to play plugins that Firefox now does automatically.

Firefox has a commitment to privacy and still has NoScript protection.

None are safe from the NSA obviously, but it's nice to be free from harrasing advertisers and markeing people who want to profile one, Google caters and is one of "them"

Yeah because someone would need to be crazy or bored to tears experimenting with a new browser.. Heaven forbid they may simply be... CURIOUS??. Gosh, if the whole world was like you we'd just have one kind of everything,