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OS X Lion 10.7.2 - Just me or is this pretty crappy?

I bought a 27" iMac on Jan 2 of this year. Things started out fine - loved it. As the days progressed, more and more issues arose. First, there was the problem of the WiFi cutting out. Spent some time on the boards working that one out. Still not completely satisfied. Then the application freezing started. I'm not able to bulk copy files from or to external drives without the process failing. The Finder freezes on a regular basis and other applications stop responding, including CS5.5, PathFinder and Mail. I have used Onyx to run clean up scripts, etc. and have zapped the PRAM several times. I even have the issue of RESTART failing - either it takes 5 minutes or so for the machine to shut down or I have to hard boot it to get the system to come back up.


This is the tip of the iceburg. I really don't want to return the machine, which I think is fine. It's the OS that seems (at least from what I can tell) that is the problem.


What do others think? Is there an update coming soon? Any suggestions?


Stuart Dummit

iMac (27-inch Mid 2011), Mac OS X (10.7.2)

Posted on Jan 22, 2012 1:25 PM

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Jan 22, 2012 1:32 PM in response to StuartDMT

No it is not the OS. I have a MBP bought on the 19th of December that runs just fine with Lion, have not had one problem with it that I did not create.


It is the iMac that you have. There is something wrong with it. Something, or everything, in the hardware is faulty.


To bad you waited this long as you could of returned it for a new one or refund in the first 14 days.


You need to pack it up and take in to the store you bought it from or a real Apple store that has a Genius bar.


Good luck. It will get fixed.

Jan 22, 2012 1:46 PM in response to Shootist007

Well, I could accept that it is hardware I suppose, but in my defense, I try not to be an alarmist when it comes to such things. The issues that would have (and may still) warrant a return didn't surface until less than a week ago - those being the problems with the Finder, Restart and application freezing. These issues are now persistant. The WiFi problem was apparent about two weeks ago.


So, I'll keep this in mind as I scour the boards to find if others have similar problems. I've found numerous references to the WiFi problem and the Finder/Copying issues. I can return the hardware within 30 days based on the retailer's policy. Until then, I will look for other solutions.


Thanks!


SD

Jan 22, 2012 2:00 PM in response to StuartDMT

Yes there are numerous problems with WiFi in Mac computers. I myself have not experienced any of them with my MBP, Yet.

Apple, and a lot of other people, caulk it up to user error. I believe it is a hardware problem. I have experienced it with other peoples Macbooks and Pros while working on them. There is no rhyme or reason to it.


I don't think it is alarmist to take something back if only after a short time I run into some major problems with it, especially a computer.

Supposedly I do not know what I am doing, by Apple standards. So to take it in and have it checked out at the first sign of a problem is not alarmist. That is why Apple has the genius bars.


Hope you get it sorted out.

Jan 22, 2012 3:35 PM in response to StuartDMT

These suggestions might seem trivial or may not work. I know you've run Onyx, but.. you might try deleting the Wifi service in System Preferences and then recreate it.. then you might want to run Repair Permissions.. then make sure you have all your SW updated to the current revisions.. lastly you can try to reintall MacOS Lion from the Recovery partition.


Interestingly the other day my system froze, and it wouldn't restart.. it appears Lion was corrupted.. Hmmm... the system automatically attempted to reboot, and went into recovery mode. Once I reinstalled Lion.. and it went in flawlessly.. my MPB rebooted correctly.


If you have another boot device like an external drive I suggest you backup your primary drive first, then try the above items.

Jan 22, 2012 5:14 PM in response to Király

I'm currently using Path Finder to move some files as a "manual backup." I'm going to try Time Machine over night - in case I need to try to re-install Lion (not sure how to do that since the box came with 10.7.2 installed.) I'm going to try another permissions repair - this time from Apple's disk utilities...


I never thought about the home folder being corrupt. That's an excellent suggestion. Makes all sorts of sense!


I also realized that I have Snow Leopard on an external fire wire drive that should be bootable. I'll see how things fare using that as well.


Thanks everyone - and still looking for more insights!


sd

Jan 22, 2012 5:19 PM in response to StuartDMT

StuartDMT wrote:


I also realized that I have Snow Leopard on an external fire wire drive that should be bootable. I'll see how things fare using that as well.

I doubt that your iMac can boot into Snow Leopard as it came bundled with Lion. Usually, Apple restricts Macs to boot operating system versions that are earlier than the version that the computer originally shipped with. Meaning that a Mac that came with Lion cannot boot Snow Leopard.

Jan 22, 2012 6:12 PM in response to Tom Dignam

Tom Dignam wrote:


Not True. I have a new iMac, Dec 2011. It came bundled with Lion and I can boot into my Snow Leopard partiton, no problem. It is the latest iteration of Snow Leopard.

Although that might be the case for the 2011 iMac (as there have not been hardware revisions after Lion was released). Usually Apple will lock new Mac computers from booting earlier versions of the operating system than the one installed when the Mac was shipped. As an expmple, my MacBook Pro cannot boot the Snow Leopard retail disc as my Mac was released after Apple released the revised Snow Leopard 10.6.3 disc which contained an earlier 10.6.3 build than the one that came with my MacBook Pro.

Jan 22, 2012 6:25 PM in response to Tom Dignam

Tom Dignam wrote:


Not True. I have a new iMac, Dec 2011. It came bundled with Lion and I can boot into my Snow Leopard partiton, no problem. It is the latest iteration of Snow Leopard.


Correct, just the Early 2011 factory Lion Mac's can also boot Snow Leopard because originally those Mac's came with Snow Leopard before Lion was inflicted on the world, thus there are hardware drivers.

Jan 22, 2012 6:31 PM in response to Tom Dignam

Tom Dignam wrote:


I can boot a Leopard Partition.

Not that I want to sound stupid... but you mean Leopard as 10.5 or Snow Leopard? If your Mac can boot Leopard it means that your Mac was build somewhere between 2007 and 2009.


Tom Dignam wrote:


My Mac was built in Late November 2011, purchased Late December 2011 according to CoconutID.

If you are reffering that your Mac can boot Snow Leopard, it is because of the fact that this particular iMac model was released in May 2011 when OSX Snow Leopard was the latest operating system being offered by Apple; OSX Lion (v10.7) was released in July 20th, 2011. There have not been any iMac revisions since then (May 2011). As a result, there are Snow Leopard drivers available for your Mac, thus the ability to boot in Snow Leopard.

Jan 22, 2012 6:39 PM in response to vea1083

Yes I meant Snow Leopard. You said: "I doubt that your iMac can boot into Snow Leopard as it came bundled with Lion. Usually, Apple restricts Macs to boot operating system versions that are earlier than the version that the computer originally shipped with. Meaning that a Mac that came with Lion cannot boot Snow Leopard".


I said: Not True, which is the case.

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