Read this blog and would love to know if any qualifed Verizon customers can verify if this change actually works.
http://wyang0.blogspot.com/2012/01/verizon-wi-fi-for-all-devices-mac-linux.html
I have Verizon DSL and Verizon supplied Westell 7500 gateway.
WiFi works well.
On what device(s)? Have you been able to travel and log on to a Verizon wifi hotspot with an Apple device?
Any wifi device will connect to a Verizon wifi hotspot.
According to your other post in the iPad forum you are not really asking about a Verizon wifi hotspot, which could be a mifi device or a phone. You are asking about connecting to Boingo.
Correct. Boingo provides Wifi hotspot service to Non Apple devices. A PC user with software installed could take advantage of these hotspots while traveling. Apple products have been left out for years. I'm hoping to hear back form Mac users who can confirm what the blogger posted on the 22nd of January. If true this could be big and huge for users of Mac devices.
Why is getting Boingo "...big and huge for users of Mac devices."? Users of "Mac devices" have had wifi hotspot access for years.
Just get a hotspot account from your cell phone provider and use your "Mac devices" anywhere you have a 3G/4G signal. Is there something special about Boingo that makes it better than using any other hotspot service/device?
Boingo IS the wifi hotspot service contracted for Verizon Wireless and DSL\Fiber Optic customers. Verizon Wireless and Verizon customers using Mac devices have been livid for years that Verizon has NOT supported their devices for use on their WiFi hotposts. Verizon has ONLY supported Windows devices. You can't get a hotspot account from your cell phone provider if this provider is Verizon Wirless and have a Mac device connect to it.
I think you are hung up on Boingo. You don't have to use Boingo as your hotspot. Verizon also offers mifi hotspot accounts as well as phone hotspot accounts. Any of your Mac devices such as computers, iPads, etc. can connect to these Verizon hotspots.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/explore/?page=mobile-hotspots
Your Mac devices will also connect to any other company's mifi/phone hotspot (Sprint, AT&T, etc.) Your Mac devices will also connect to hotspots set up in restaurants, libraries, cities, hotels, airports, etc. Once again, you don't have to use Boingo even if you have a Verizon cell account.
The link you provided does not diplay "other" public WiFi locations. The link diplays a place to shop for MiFi devices.
Verizon Wirless offers Mifi service at $60 per month for 5 gigs. I don't know what you mean that Verizon offers "phone hotspot accounts". An iPad that does not have cellular service may be able to use FREE public hotspots
via Boingo. An iPod Touch, Netbook or Apple laptop using a paid for Mifi service account may be able to also use
the thousands of public Wifi accounts Verizon wireless has offered their PC customers for years. Anyone using a Mifi card who wants to use more data and not incur overage charges on their device would be very happy to have this option provided to them. My curiosity and desire, as a user of a Verizon Mifi card myself, is that the information posted on the blog I mentioned in my first post actually works for Verizon DSL\Fib ops customers and will eventually open up to Verizon Wireless customers as well.
Mayby my interest is hard for you to personally understand and that is ok. I have had to deal with many customer requests, complaints and feedback from unhappy Apple product users during my five years of employment as a Verizon Wireless Authorized support representative. I have also seen lost business since Verizon does not support public Wifi access points with Apple products as they do with Microsoft.
Googleperplexed wrote:
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An iPad that does not have cellular service may be able to use FREE public hotspotsvia Boingo. An iPod Touch, Netbook or Apple laptop using a paid for Mifi service account may be able to also use
the thousands of public Wifi accounts Verizon wireless has offered their PC customers for years.
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An iPad, or any other Mac device, that does not have cellular service can use any wifi hotspot. It does not need to do so "via Boingo".
OK. I get it. You want to use Boingo and do not care that Mac devices can use any open, or secured wifi access point if you know the security phrase, wifi network. Keep up the good fight to use Boingo. I'll continue using public wifi hotspots, my mifi hotspot, and my phone as a hotspot with all my Mac devices.
I travel a lot on business and never needed Boingo for any of my Mac devices. I personally think Boingo and other similar providers are an outdated model. Especially with the proliferation of free public hotspots and mifi/phone hotspot capability.
Are you trying to be condescending or am I just reading your posts wrong?
BobTheFisherman fails to understand that Verizon ISP customers should have FREE access to Boingo hotspots. Free public hotspots aren't as ubiquitous enough to make Boingo useless. MiFi/phone hotspot costs lots of extra money.
Let me say it again. Verizon DSL/FiOS users do NOT need to pay extra $$ to use Boingo's network.
Would BobTheFisherman like to provide Googleperplexed with a MiFi/phone hotspot in a way that Googleperplexed doesn't need to pay more than he/she already does?
Hey - I have a macbook and a verizon hotspot - verizon never mentioned it wouldn't work with my mac, It does, HOWEVER - I keep getting this message: "System UI Server Need Your Attention, please" with a little popup window saying. "The wireless network appears to have been compromised and will shut down for about a minute." Search all day long you won't find system ui server.
Any verizon hints, it is very frustrating and I have another year on my agreement with verizon. The guys at the verizon store looked at me like I was from outerspace when I tried to ask "mac" questions but I live in a rural area and we don't have fios or anything cool that you could bundle.
hope you are still out there, oh verizon guy.
Your mifi won't connect to your mac at all or are you looking for hotspot coverage provided by Verizon that will work on your mac?
Is there an answer to this?
(please no uninformed answers from people who do not understand the issue)
This is a sore point for Verizon hight-speed FiOS subscribers who are promised Version Wifi Hostspot access as a "free" extra benefit of paying extra for high-speed FiOS.
Macs can access "Verizon WiFi hotspots" (in fact often (always?) provided by Boingo, but not accessed as a Boingo user) with Verizon's special Windows-only access manager *IF* running Windows natively (bootcamp), but *NOT* with Windows running in a Parallels or VMware virtual machine running under OS X.
This is because the Verizon access manager connects directly to WiFi hardware using the native widows WiFi driver, while a virtual machine only has a virtual network interface to the Apple WiFi driver that runs when the machine is booted into OS X. (The native windows wifi driver in the virtual machine is not connected to the WiFi hardware, so the Verizon access manager fails)
I used to have a bootcamp installation of windows *just* to access the "Free" Verizon WIFI access (in aiports with boingo) that comes as a "free extra" with high speed VerizonFiOS subscriptions. (Native OS X access to "free" Verizon WiFi for high-speed FiOs subscribers has been "coming soon" for at least three years!)
Is it here yet?
(I suspect "no")
more:
The Apple OS X Wifi driver of course can access Boingo, but then you have to login to a Boingo account and pay $7.95 for "24 hours access at that location" (i.e. 1 hour while you wait for your flight at the airport).
The Version-provided Hotspot access using the FiOs (not Verzion wireless cellphone) account is supposed to be free.
Confusingly this has nothing to do with a Verizon Wireless cell-phone account, and MiFi. "Verizon Wireless" and "Verizon FiOS" are almost unrelated companies (apart from the name), in the way Verizon is internally organized.
If you have a Verizon Wireless cell-phone account with MiFi, MiFi is providing a personal "hotspot" though your tethered cellphone.
If you have a Version FiOS high-speed internal account at your home, you are promised "free" direct WiFi access to hotspots where Verizon has contracted for access from hotspot providers like Boingo, and makes it available to certain Verizon customers using Verizon-supplied windows software.
Generally, Mac users are initially happy to notice the apparent "freebee" they get with high-speed FiOS, then disappointed and angry when they try to use this "benefit" and find that the small print says it is only for windows users!
IT WILL BE GREAT IF THE POST ON WILLIAM YANG'BLOG IS CORRECT, I WILL TRY NEXT TIOME I AM AT AN AIRPORT WITH BOINGO
HE SAYS:
"The second piece of good news is arguably the bigger one of the two. When you go to get set up Verizon Wi-Fi, you will be asked to create a username and password to use with the service. You are then asked to download the software. However, you don't actually need the software, although it makes the Wi-Fi much easier to use on Windows. For all other platforms, you can simply use Boingo's web login page. Yes, that's right. Remember that username and password you created? After you connect to the Boingo wireless network and get to the Boingo splash page in your browser, click on the dropdown that says "Roaming Login". Choose "Verizon Business" and enter the username and password that you set up earlier. You need to include "@verizon.net" as part of the username. This means that any device with a web browser can now use "Verizon Wi-Fi" where there is a Boingo hotspot! The fact that Verizon doesn't report this method seems to be a large oversight on their part. Or perhaps they want to keep the number of Wi-Fi users down because the more users that use the service, the more they have to pay Boingo"
Duncan-H wrote:
Is there an answer to this?
(please no uninformed answers from people who do not understand the issue)
This is a sore point for Verizon hight-speed FiOS subscribers who are promised Version Wifi Hostspot access as a "free" extra benefit of paying extra for high-speed FiOS.
Macs can access "Verizon WiFi hotspots" (in fact often (always?) provided by Boingo, but not accessed as a Boingo user) with Verizon's special Windows-only access manager *IF* running Windows natively (bootcamp), but *NOT* with Windows running in a Parallels or VMware virtual machine running under OS X.
This is because the Verizon access manager connects directly to WiFi hardware using the native widows WiFi driver, while a virtual machine only has a virtual network interface to the Apple WiFi driver that runs when the machine is booted into OS X. (The native windows wifi driver in the virtual machine is not connected to the WiFi hardware, so the Verizon access manager fails)
I used to have a bootcamp installation of windows *just* to access the "Free" Verizon WIFI access (in aiports with boingo) that comes as a "free extra" with high speed VerizonFiOS subscriptions. (Native OS X access to "free" Verizon WiFi for high-speed FiOs subscribers has been "coming soon" for at least three years!)
Is it here yet?
(I suspect "no")
Verizon Wifi now works on Mac?
