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I cannot select text on the bottom of each page.

I'm working on a long document in a custom paper size. Can't figure out if it's the custom size but things seem to have been misbehaving since I upgraded to Lion. Rather than being able to select text normally, there seems to be a cut-off about two inches from the bottom of the page. The pointer doesn't alter to indicate any change but when I try clicking nothing happens. If I click and drag, I get a gray rectangle instead of actual text being grabbed and an error beep if I try and start typing.


Any help appreciated.


EDIT: It's more like six inches from the bottom of the page. Pretty much I can't use the mouse on half of each pages of this document which is making editing almost impossible.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.2)

Posted on Jan 23, 2012 6:03 PM

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Jan 23, 2012 11:23 PM in response to curiouslyfun

It has happen before in long documents. it can have to do with the paper format. Usually we don't know but there might be work around to get the work done.

Copy the content of the document over to a original blank one. Do your writing and when it is as you like it paste it into a new document of the custom format.


Int to problematic document you probably can move the cursor with the arrow keys. To select words or line press shift key and move cursor with the arrow key.

Jan 24, 2012 2:18 PM in response to fruhulda

I'm doing a lot of editing at the bottom of the page primarily because I'm working on widows and orphans on a manuscript length text for purposes of exporting to pdf. I could use the arrow keys to navigate down on each page I need to work on but at several hundred pages, that's so arduous that I was hoping there was a simple workaround for this.


I appreciate your replies. Were you indicating this is a bug Apple is aware of / planning on fixing?

Jan 24, 2012 3:18 PM in response to curiouslyfun

cf,


Was this document, or any parts of it, created or edited in Excel? Do you have MS Office on your computer? What font are you using?


None of us know if Apple is working on this issue, or any other for that matter. The more people who complain, the better chance it will show on their radar. Even if is does get their attention, the change would need to be consistent with their design rules, which we have no idea about.


Jerry

Jan 25, 2012 1:05 PM in response to curiouslyfun

My understanding is, as I already wrote, a discripency between two pointers:

the one pointing to the embedded text

the one pointing to what is displayed.


If you copy the entire text and paste it in a new blank document, you will get the logical behavior … for some time. But after working some times on the new doc, the pointers will be odd again and you will have to repeat the described scheme.


Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) mercredi 25 janvier 2012

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Jan 28, 2013 2:31 AM in response to curiouslyfun

I'm having the same problem. Editing a long document (700 or so pages). its only when im about 1/3rd the way into the document do i have a problem selecting at the bottom of the page. And as I go further into the document the point at which i cannot select increases (it goes further up the page). About halfway into the document pages starts to struggle to display 2 pages at once, and toward the end of the document i cannot select any text, regardless of where on the page i click. also, only one page will display at a time with empty gray space where the other page should be.


A bit of background: this document started out in MS word, it was exported as a pages document. i noticed the problem. i copied and pasted the text into textedit; removed all formatting; then copied back into pages. at this point i could select everywhere i wanted: document was working perfectly. i then started to add paragraph styles for the chapters, headings and sub heading. also added section breaks for chapters. Now, about a 1/3rd the way into the document the problem reoccured! now im in the same position i was before.


Its a year after this thread was started, has there been any fixes, updates?


Macbook Pro 5,1. OSX 10.8.2. Pages 09 4.3

Jan 28, 2013 3:08 AM in response to popcornfan

How much RAM do you have on your Mac?


I suspect that it may ultimately be a matter of just how much document can be held in RAM and calculated as to its layout, something Pages is not noticeably efficient at doing.


I am entirely too scarred by years of practical encounters with many different applications to gamble any 700 page project of mine in Pages let alone any other application that is not strictly a TextEditor.


What compells you to use Pages?


Peter

Jan 28, 2013 3:58 AM in response to popcornfan

Try upgrading your RAM, that may get you out of this particular hole. I have 12Gb on my iMac.


Yes there are a large number, which whilst I can't attest to their efficency in large documents I suspect would work better than Pages does with its layout overheads.


Even humble TextEdit (actually not so humble) can manage styled text and save as eithier .rtf or .rtfd (not recommended for PC users).


I am a fan of iText Pro or iText Express (the free version).


For professional writers I recommend Scrivener, Ulysses, StoryMill and Jers Novel Writer.


Peter

Jan 28, 2013 4:10 AM in response to curiouslyfun

Hi curiouslyfun,


You wrote:


I'm working on a long document.


Peter wrote:


I suspect that it may ultimately be a matter of just how much document can be held in RAM and calculated as to its layout, something Pages is not noticeably efficient at doing.


Ahem.


Pages is a $20 word processor. It is not a clone of Microsoft Word. Pages is a user-friendly app for short documents. If you need strong horsepower, buy and use Word for Mac.


Popcorn wrote:


an editor will get the document. They requested pages.


Hi Pop, perhaps your editor will accept your work in a number of small Pages documents. Split your work into several "chapters" in separate Pages docs. If your editor is a Pages user, they will understand.


Ian.

Jan 28, 2013 4:15 AM in response to popcornfan

There is also a (strong) possibility that Pages is making a creeping error in calculating line spacing and positioning, which is why this problem occurs deep into a very long document.


As Yellowbox suggests splitting any long document is always a good idea. Both Indesign and Quark Xpress do it as a matter of course, combining the results into "Books" which are the sum of those separate documents.


Peter

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