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Time Machine Frequent "Start New Backup"

Why does my MBP time machine keep telling me that it needs to create a new backup?😠


It only seems to happen when the system comes out of sleep .... (wireless connection) ...


It happened to backups on my Time Capsule so often that I stopped using my time capsule for that ... it is now happening the same on my synology NAS ...


I cannot try a third option ... I don't have one!!!


I want to prevent it happening ... but do not know the cause ... and do not know how.


Apple's help on this is insulting (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.7/en/mh34042.html) ... I can read the dialogue box ... how does the help 'help' in any way? There does not seem to be any acknowledgement of this elsewhere from Apple ... and no way to contact them.


It has only been happening since Lion ... th same hardware has been fine for 12 months before that. It only happens on my MBP (17 " Mid 2010) and not on my children's MB, wife's MBP (13") nor my iMac.




Thanks.

Macbook Pro 2010, Mac OS X (10.7.2)

Posted on Jan 25, 2012 9:32 AM

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Nov 11, 2013 2:08 PM in response to MacPear

Just thought I'd add my name to this ever growing list...


I'm also running a Synology NAS - DJ411 in my case - and as are we all, I'm getting somewhat fed up of having to create a new TM backup pretty much every time I option my macbook :-/

Especially at 80Gb a time, even over wireless n.


Going wired - even if it helped - isn't an option.

I bought a macbook rather than an iMac, so that i could move around with it :-)


Going Apple Time Capsule - also inst an option, at least until such time as the Capsule comes with 4 drives running RAID.


I'm going to go back to some of the suggestions in this lenghty thread, on the off chance that I may get lucky - but in the mean time, thought I'd at least share in everyone's misery :-)

Nov 11, 2013 2:37 PM in response to Folbo

FYI for Synology users...I started the following thread on the Synology forums in 2012.


http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=159&t=49914&start=105


Synology responded to the thread a few months ago stating that they made several enhancements to Time Machine stability over wifi for mac users to help resolve this issue in the DSM 4.3 beta (release July 2013). I do not have the beta to confirm it resolves the problem (not a fan of beta software). I do not think they have come out with a new stable version of DSM yet since the beta was released. However, it looks like they are trying to address the issue.


I haven't used Time Machine in 3 years due to this issue.

Jan 2, 2014 7:50 AM in response to Folbo

A Partial Answer


I use a Buffalo NAS which I connect to wirelessly and keep across the road as an off-site backup. The NAS has two drives, one of which is a Time Machine and the other is a daily mirror backup using a very reliable program called ChronoSync. My thought was that using two separate systems would provide redundancy against failure. But if Time Machine is inherently unreliable, then that purpose is defeated.


Indeed, I have had the same problems with Time Machineas everyone else in this thread. I have had to rebuild it every couple of months. Because it's a huge backup (1.5 TB) that means bringing the drive back on-site and connecting it through the gigabyte ethernet. I've found that I can save time by deleting the whole backup and starting over, rather than letting Time Machine handle it all. But even then, it takes a couple of days to rebuild, during which time my data is vulnerable to an onsite accident.


It is now time to rethink my plan. Time Machine is not a reliable backup on a remote NAS but it does seem to work when the drive is connected directly. Moverover, where Time Machine really shines is when you've overwritten or deleted something you really wanted to keep. That function doesn't require it to be offsite or on a NAS. So my new plan is to run it on a large drive inside the computer itself, and then use ChronoSync for the offsite backup. I'll then use other drive in the NAS as a second ChronoSync backup, with a weekly interval instead of daily. I could also do the NAS with RAID, but I've had problems with that, too.


I, too, wish Time Machine could be more reliable.

Feb 25, 2014 9:04 AM in response to skalleman

Am I correct in assuming that you use Time Machine to back up to some drive attached over Wi-Fi (NAS)? In that case Apple has not fixed it and according to this article will never be able to.


http://basilsalad.com/how-to/time-machine-wireless-backup/


I have given up using TM to NAS and now use it only with a USB connection. Touch wood, everything is fine so far.

Apr 7, 2014 7:12 PM in response to Folbo

got the message "Time Machine completed a verification of your backups. To improve reliability, Time Machine must create a new backup for you"


- sounds like a good thing....and assumed my previous TimeMachine backups to the NAS were safe.

- TimeMachine DELETED any back before I accepted this message. I just really can't beleive it! I've worked so hard at ensuring backups and archives were handled over the years, and 2014 TimeMachine DELETED my backups on this location from the last 2 months! Wow.


- New IMAC and connected via ethernet to the NAS. Synology Diskstation 12TB DSM41.


Hoping this save someone some pain.

May 6, 2014 6:48 AM in response to Folbo

I had the same issue backuping 3 Macs on a wireless network (Backup disks shared through an AE).

The following fix works like a charm for me:

- Created 3 partitions on my back-up disk (I've installed a Taurus Raid 1)

- connected the Raid to my main Mac (Firewire as I don't have a USB 3)

- installed MacOS server on my main Mac

- shared the 3 partitions with the server

- used the Time Machine feature from the server

- assigned a partition for every TM backup


Wireless back-up works perfectly (2 of the three Macs are backuping wirelessly) - I didn't have to rebuild a backup for weeks.


I also use Carbon Copy Cloner to get a bootable back-up.

Time Machine Frequent "Start New Backup"

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