Pairing Apple Keyboard With Other Bluetooth-Enabled Devices

I just got a new Palm LifeDrive, which has Bluetooth and supports use of a Bluetooth keyboard. I tried to pair my Apple Bluetooth Keyboard with the LifeDrive, but it failed. I tried repeatedly, and one time it asked me for a passkey, which, of course, I couldn't provide, but the rest of the attempts failed without any feedback.

Has anyone else out there had any luck using the Apple Bluetooth Keyboard with a PDA or smart phone of any kind? I've found a couple of posts in this forum by other people attempting this, one with a Palm PDA and one with a phone, but both went unanswered. Is this just futile?

Thanks!

PowerBook G4 1.5 GHz, Mac OS X (10.4.5), 1.5 GB RAM, 100 GB HD

Posted on Feb 19, 2006 6:22 AM

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Mar 6, 2006 5:28 AM in response to David Livesay

Hi again, David —

Sorry those threads weren't helpful. Not one to give up easily, I conjured and looked around a bit further. I'll share a few thoughts — and suggestions that seem to have helped others facing what I hope are comparable — though far from identical — dilemmas...

(1) Enter a random passkey. Because some manufacturers have implemented certain Bluetooth capabilities differently, devices of different brands can require a little "voodoo" — or be unable to communicate with each other altogether. One such "mojo" possibility is that your Palm device is seeking an arbitrary passkey (also called a "link key") for encryption purposes during each active period of use — separate from normal "pairing" and authentication. To test this, try entering an arbitrary number such as "1111."

The Apple KnowledgeBase Article About Encrypted Communication (Key Icon) mentions this. See also José Ma. J. Lopez-Vito III's Bluetooth Blues" thread (11-09-02) from a MacInTouch reader report for an example where this succeeded. (Search or scroll ~ 2/3 down the page.)

If this or any of the other ideas works, even once, I suggest you try to set up the keyboard as a " Favorite" — if the Palm Bluetooth software facilitates something like this.

(2) Turn off " fast user switching" if you have it enabled on your PowerBook. Palm's Mac OS X compatibility issues FAQs explain that Palm's kernel extension software can't handle more than one user being logged-in (even though "inactive"). Disabling "fast user switching" in System Preferences »» Accounts »» Login Options — when you need to connect to the LifeDrive — is the work-around for this, if appropriate.

(3) Other ideas. I found or recalled a few other ideas that I consider less likely to help in this situation — because they're intended to resolve issues when your PowerBook (not LifeDrive) takes the "master" role in a Bluetooth personal-area network (PAN) = piconet.[a] However, they may be applicable — but would have to be implemented using the Palm software (with which I'm unfamiliar) rather than Apple's. So I'll suggest/explain these ideas in a subsequent message if nothing here helps. Ignore 'em if you can't see a way...

(4) Confirm LifeDrive and Palm OS/Bluetooth status using System Profiler. When you have your LifeDrive attached to your PowerBook using its USB adapter (this may not matter), check to confirm some info about the LifeDrive that may be extrapolated to its interactions with the wireless keyboard. Selecting the PDA in System Profiler »» Hardware »» Bluetooth, »» USB; and System Preferences »» Devices should provide details of what your PowerBook "sees" re: the LifeDrive: Address, Type, Services, Paired, Favorite, Connected, etc. Do any of these values appear surprising or problematic? While you're in System Preferences, confirm that the LifeDrive is set up as a "Favorite." Also, check your Palm install disc &/or System Profiler »» Software »» Extensions to confirm that you have Palm™ Desktop 4.2.1 Rev D for Mac drivers (released Sept. 2005) installed. Given that you just purchased, this is probably a "no-brainer" — but who knows?

(5) Contact Palm. I looked around in Palm's Support Knowledge Library, Palm Macintosh Support, and Palm Help Forums — honestly, without finding much that's appropriate to your conundrum — except that Palm is "still testing" compatibility with Mac OS X 10.3.x and 10.4.x, and there seem to be quite a few unresolved issues that Palm engineers are "studying." You may want to peruse these sources, too — if you haven't — since you're so much more familiar than I am. Nevertheless, since you're within the 90-day complimentary support period, I think you should Request Help directly from Palm.
Btw, did you notice that the LifeDrive uses the Bluetooth 1.1 specification? (Firmware 1.2 is backward-compatible, but...)
(6) (The "bad news" — maybe). Palm sells a $69 fold-up, "Universal Keyboard" as an optional accessory. Cynically, I wonder whether this might lessen their motivation to resolve pairing &/or driver incompatibilities? Note that this link from this keyboard »» details webpage seems to imply that a separate keyboard driver is required to interact with the LifeDrive. Hmmm...
Well... That's All, Folks! I envy you the cool toy — and HTH so you can use it to your heart's content!
Good luck!
Dean
[a] Explained in a following post, as appropriate...
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Mar 8, 2006 9:27 AM in response to Dean Pahl

Hi again, David —

A minor footnote to the previous post... KnowledgeBase Article 86652: Apple Wireless Keyboard - Creating a Passkey mentions:
"If you pair your Apple Wireless Keyboard in Bluetooth preferences rather than in the Bluetooth Setup Assistant, you will be asked to create a passkey. Choose any combination of numbers, but do not use letters in your passkey."
While this isn't directly applicable — since you're trying to pair with a keyboard from the LifeDrive rather than from your PowerBook — it does parallel suggestion (1) above, fwiw...

Note: I'm holding off on the "subsequent message" about other ideas until hearing back from you.

Regards,
Dean
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Apr 7, 2006 3:41 AM in response to Dean Pahl

Sorry it's taken so long to get back to you, but I haven't had a lot of time to spend on this, and it's never quite clear when it's time to give up. I've tried all these suggestions and had no luck. It's not even clear that these devices support Bluetooth keyboards. The wireless keyboard that Palm sells isn't even Bluetooth. It requires a card for the SD card slot and some extra software to make it work. It would have been a lot easier for them to to sell a Bluetooth keyboard, if the device supported it, so I almost have to conclude that it doesn't.

Thanks for all your help and suggestions, and I'm sure the time you've put into the research will help others, but I think we can now conclude that Palm devices with Bluetooth don't support Bluetooth keyboards, Apple or otherwise.

There are a lot of other things they don't support. For example, you might think you could browse files on a device like the LifeDrive, which has a 4GB hard drive for carrying your files around with you, but you can't. When you connect to it it just says "no services available." It does allow you to hotsynch and a few other things, but it's really very limited. I have to say that it's been a bit of a disappointment overall.

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