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Feb 3, 2012 1:34 PM in response to Tom Dignamby boyfromoz,I don't find much different because Lion has always worked great for me. But maybe Apple might think about making the Combo Update the default update in software update ?
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Feb 3, 2012 1:56 PM in response to boyfromozby vea1083,boyfromoz wrote:
I don't find much different because Lion has always worked great for me. But maybe Apple might think about making the Combo Update the default update in software update ?
They can do that, or set SU to download the full Delta update. This is the first time since I am on Mac where the Delta update has brought issues as well, but most of the time Delta Updates are safe.
In this case however, the issue seems to be more consistent with people upgrading their Macs with the 10.7.3 Software Update version, which is specially tailored for the user's Mac and take (or puts) bits and pieces of the update depending on the user's current system configuration. I find this behavior is often problematic and it has been proven from time to time during each maintenance release of OSX. I used to have a 7-day rule before installing some updates but due to the little stability in OSX Lion it has served as a incentive to bypass that rule and change it to a 2-day update cool-off rule. I think Apple got it mostly right in 10.7.2 & 10.7.3. if these updates can be used as an indicator it seems to me that the subsequent 10.7.4 and 10.7.5 updates will be also massive in size as bugs continue to be squashed by the Apple Developer team; and I think we might see a 10.7.9 or 10.7.10 if the next iteration of OSX (known as 10.8, so far) is released in the 2013 Summer/Fall timeframe. I hope that my Mac's reliability and stability improves with the current Lion update and there are indications so far that this is the case.
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Feb 3, 2012 2:30 PM in response to albert421by MrTingle,I am VERY annoyed that apple haven't pulled this update yet, I only did it tonight and it screwed everything up, thank GOD for time capsule and time machine back ups.
How am I, as a user supposed to know not to allow a system update to go ahead? I'm not, that's the whole reason behind these automatic system update programs.
I don't expect apple to be allowing crappy system destroying updates out into the wild and then keeping them there and allowing people to continue downloading the problem file 3 days after they've been made aware of the issue.
The download files should have been pulled immediately.
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Feb 3, 2012 3:29 PM in response to albert421by kriss13,I think I'll go back do Snow Leo... 10.6.8 was perfect... i can loose the Fullscreen pps... not worth it.
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Feb 3, 2012 4:13 PM in response to albert421by dsdaughtry,had the same problem. Opened a case with Apple support and eventually forced to visit my Apple store for a system restore. Was informed by Apple technical staff at Raleigh, NC store NOT TO INSTALL 10.7.3 UPDATE. Was instructed to wait until next update instead.
Upon my visit today I was standing next to 3 other customers with the SAME problem. The Apple store was full today of customers with technical issues in part to the recent update.
I am confident that Apple was attempting in good faith to post a critical update to fix other issues. Instead the 10.7.3 update created chaos as many users were left with unusable hardware that crashed every installed program - except iCal and Address Book.
I hope that Apple creates a fix to replace the snafu in 10.7.3. I cannot stress enough that Apple Store Technical Support was telling its customers after the reinstall of Lion to NOT download 10.7.3. However to wait for an update at a later date.
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Feb 3, 2012 5:03 PM in response to albert421by Flusc,Hi guys,
I fixed this issue by reinstalling the combo update with remote desktop.
You can mount the combo dmg on a "good" system and drag it into the package installer.
This worked fine for me!
Good luck!
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Feb 3, 2012 5:05 PM in response to dsdaughtryby nitpicker330,I received a phone call in Australia today from the US from an Apple technician. Wow that is good customer service!! I hadn't spoken or complained to them but they read this forum and asked if I was ok. I told him that I had restored back to 10.7.2 and was going to wait. He said as I had 10.7.2 I could download the combo update and it would be ok.
I will do this next week.
Thanks Apple tech for reading this and taking the time to call me.
Cheers
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Feb 3, 2012 5:37 PM in response to pcolvin15by trevorfromoakpark,That may be the only proper, well documented way to install the patch, but if Software Update offers such an update in an alternative manner, how is a user to distinguish this is not an advisable way to install such an update?
There's the rub, the update was offered via Software Update, and I suspect that most people wouldn't expect a vendor to offer such an update via a method that wasn't in fact a recommended way to deliver it? Doesn't that make sense?
In my case, recovery involved (on a mid-2011 Mac Mini, with relatively little on it - fortunately) :
1. Recovery Partition.
2. Time Machine restore back to 10.7.2
3. Installation of the combo installer 10.7.3
And now everything appears all good.
As I said however, if a vendor offers an update via a delivery mechanism, one would expect it to be a valid and recommended means of delivery. I find it strange that Software Update is not a recommended means of delivery for major updates. I'll keep that in mind for the future.
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Feb 3, 2012 5:40 PM in response to Darrenby Gator TPK,Darren wrote:
How this didnt get picked up by Devs in the latest build is strange. I'm running desktop iMAC, not macbook and had the same problems.
Head in the sand Apple will blame everyone's hardware (if they make any comment at all)
Not impressed with the time wasted to restore and then install the combo update.
I know someone who didn't have any problems with their previous builds but then when they updated their main machine, this CUI CUI CUI problem hit them too. It's like the Developers were testing this on "Clean" installs of OS X without many third party Apps. But then the problem starts up when updating with the Main, or User Machines or Partitions.
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Feb 3, 2012 6:25 PM in response to albert421by GO HAWKs,yeah same here, I thought I screwed up somewhere on the line. Used Time Machine to go back, used disk utility to check to see any potential problem. Then use Apple Update to update system. BOOM, CUI CUI again, every apps crash at first sight even About This Mac cause Log out every time. This is madness. I'm using Lion 10.7.2 Macbook Pro 15" Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 NVIDIA128MB late 2007.
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Feb 3, 2012 6:35 PM in response to GO HAWKsby Tom Dignam,......yeah same here,
Just apply Combo-Update
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Feb 3, 2012 8:35 PM in response to vea1083by vea1083,vea1083 wrote:
boyfromoz wrote:
I don't find much different because Lion has always worked great for me. But maybe Apple might think about making the Combo Update the default update in software update ?
They can do that, or set SU to download the full Delta update. This is the first time since I am on Mac where the Delta update has brought issues as well, but most of the time Delta Updates are safe.
In this case however, the issue seems to be more consistent with people upgrading their Macs with the 10.7.3 Software Update version, which is specially tailored for the user's Mac and take (or puts) bits and pieces of the update depending on the user's current system configuration. I find this behavior is often problematic and it has been proven from time to time during each maintenance release of OSX. I used to have a 7-day rule before installing some updates but due to the little stability in OSX Lion it has served as a incentive to bypass that rule and change it to a 2-day update cool-off rule. I think Apple got it mostly right in 10.7.2 & 10.7.3. if these updates can be used as an indicator it seems to me that the subsequent 10.7.4 and 10.7.5 updates will be also massive in size as bugs continue to be squashed by the Apple Developer team; and I think we might see a 10.7.9 or 10.7.10 if the next iteration of OSX (known as 10.8, so far) is released in the 2013 Summer/Fall timeframe. I hope that my Mac's reliability and stability improves with the current Lion update and there are indications so far that this is the case.
I take this statement back! My MacBook Pro just froze about 1 hour ago due to the now infamoust DumpGPURestart message. It seems that Apple will not get Lion right! I think people will need to move to social media to force Apple's hand.
I joined this Facebook Group!
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Feb 4, 2012 1:04 AM in response to albert421by dumgi,Pay different (no longer think)
I agreed to pay more to get reliable product. I was one of the lucky ones to get "cuicui" message - it didn't make me hilarious at all. I guess Apple is no longer as trustworthy as it used to be, more and more updates, more end more crashes, it gets closer and closer to Microsoft, just that the price is different.
Gil who is so disappointed
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Feb 4, 2012 1:10 AM in response to nitpicker330by dumgi,great service???? if you have to reinstall eveything and use time machine to get everything back. What do you call custumer service?
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Feb 4, 2012 1:10 AM in response to albert421by mr.recordman,I am another user affected by the CUI message and all my apps crashes. I can not open finder. Luckily just Chrome is working for me after several crashes. No way for me to install combo update. I could try through terminal but I want an Apple solution. It is takiing quite long time to them.
Is Apple taking actions about this?