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Q: 10.0.3 DISASTEROUS

System -

Fastest MCP one can buy (with extra 2.5gz processor model 8gb ram 1.7core) Lacie THUNDERBOLT drives. 10.7.3 OS.

 

10.0.2 ran "relatively" fine. NOTHING changed except upgrading to 10.0.3

 

Re-renders everything everytime I restart the program - Even though it rendered to 100% on last shutdown.

And when it is rendering - it does it SLOWER than the last version 10.0.2!

 

Playback stutters. Beach ball is more present than 10.0.2 !

 

Titling of previous projects is messed up - baslines and tracking are changed!

 

To test - I reinstalled the previous version 10.0.2 and reloaded in those previous projects. All runs smoothly.

 

Reinstalled the 10.0.3 again - EVERYTHING THE SAME - and same issues!

 

WHO CARES ABOUT ALL THE NEW "FEATURES" WHEN IT DESTROYS MONTHS OF PREVIOUS WORK, AND EVERYTHING IS EVEN SLOWER THAN BEFORE??? Its so frustrating to read reviews by magazines etc who do not lay down feature length, complex movies and only talk about all the "great new features" and how performance is "improved" simply because they read that it SHOULD be improved!

 

Well it isnt - its WORSE! Doesnt Apple actually test things before releasing it ? Where has the trust gone???

 

And I have the most pimped out (portable) system one can get. Pity on those with less endowed systems!

 

EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED AND ANGRY!

Final Cut Pro X

Posted on Feb 2, 2012 4:53 AM

by Bleak House,Solvedanswer
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Just to let you know, yesterday I had a lengthy conversation with apple who advised Me against creating optimised media. Isnt that somehow contradictory? I Was also told that even if you turn off background rendering it is still doing all sorts of other background tasks and will not make the blindest bit of difference. I was also told that this software Is ahead of it's time and that we should in other words be appreciative of this fact. Yeah right! If they'd been fully tested before going to Market. If I gave a client a film/video that was not fit for purpose I'd either have a very unhappy client or a law suit on myhands... How are they allowed to get away with this rickety piece of cack. All I want is a solid editing platform that cuts through 1080p like a hot knife through butter.  And to think everyone is creaming themselves over 4k. What a laugh!

I'm running a 3.4 i7 iMac 8gb ram, not that bad a machine, everything flys on it but as soon as I open fcpx (on it's own as it is a ram sponge) it turns into a useless piece of glass that I want to put my head through. That to me says there is a fault with the software. Now I'm no expert but hey that's why I bought Macs, Init!

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  • by montster,

    montster montster Feb 10, 2012 3:11 AM in response to Penn-Ohio
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    Feb 10, 2012 3:11 AM in response to Penn-Ohio

    AWESOME PO!!!!

    Junk yard DAWWWWWWWG to be sure!

     

    We both have the exact same setup now - even monitor (minus the TB drives though).

     

    Great stuff!

     

    BUT be wary of 10.0.3 IT IS >>>>>>NOT<<<<<<< a step UP from 10.0.2 regardless of some that insist on everything Apple does being justified somehow or another. FORGET about multi cam for now. Just go with '02 and with this system you will be VERY pleased. IF you go with '03 you might think its "not bad" but you just wont know how BAD it is compared to using '02 with YOUR setup. A huge difference indeed.

     

    Thats the latest from la la land buddy!

  • by Andy Drefs,

    Andy Drefs Andy Drefs Feb 10, 2012 6:12 AM in response to montster
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    Feb 10, 2012 6:12 AM in response to montster

    I'll do some more checking today to really be sure, but I'm still waiting a long time for renders; last project I opened had two short titles to render at the beginning and end of the project and it took almost 2 minutes to complete - not exactly speedy in my book.  It did seem to play back better while rendering though...who knows, I'm so burnt out after the last 2+ weeks of trial and error and I'm just sick of it all...

  • by Andy Drefs,

    Andy Drefs Andy Drefs Feb 10, 2012 6:14 AM in response to montster
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    Feb 10, 2012 6:14 AM in response to montster

    What's the best/safest way to revert back to 10.0.2?

  • by montster,

    montster montster Feb 10, 2012 6:18 AM in response to Andy Drefs
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    Feb 10, 2012 6:18 AM in response to Andy Drefs

    Brother Andy -

    I know oh so know how you feel!

    My brain is shrunk like a raisin from all this (Montster haters gotta love that comment lol) back and forth.

    Now I just "grin and bear it" whilst trying to get work done to pay the bills.

     

    Best easiest way is using Time Machine - do you have that?

  • by Andy Drefs,

    Andy Drefs Andy Drefs Feb 10, 2012 6:50 AM in response to montster
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    Feb 10, 2012 6:50 AM in response to montster

    Yes I do.  But if I use that does EVERYTHING get setback or can I choose?  I did just update FCP, Compressor and the (lovely) OS.

  • by montster,

    montster montster Feb 10, 2012 6:50 AM in response to andynick
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    Feb 10, 2012 6:50 AM in response to andynick

    andynick wrote:

     

    Stop shouting, calm down, and you'll sort the problem out

     

     

    ...keeping quiet, keeping calm .... VOILA ALL THE BAD CODING HAS BEEN FIXED!

     

     

     

    Lol!

  • by montster,

    montster montster Feb 10, 2012 6:58 AM in response to Andy Drefs
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    Feb 10, 2012 6:58 AM in response to Andy Drefs

    Andy Drefs wrote:

     

    Yes I do.  But if I use that does EVERYTHING get setback or can I choose?  I did just update FCP, Compressor and the (lovely) OS.

    You can choose thank bajeezus

     

    Click on any date bar to travel “back in time” and view the contents of your computer on that date.  The arrows pointing back and forward near the bottom right of the screen step things through one snapshot at a time.

     

    Browse through your hard drive on any date to find the file, folder, etc you want to restore.  You can PREVIEW but not open within this TM environment.  Just press the Space Bar to view the contents like you normally do if you want.

     

    Once you find what you need, select the file or folder, then click on the Restore button at the lower right of your screen. Time Machine will “zoom out” back to your normal desktop and restore the item to it’s original location.

     

    Voila, your selected data is restored

     

    MAKE SURE YOU GOT THE UN-CONVERTED FILES OF 10.0.2 FORMAT (cuz I doubt the updated 03 versions are going to be backward compatible).

  • by Penn-Ohio,

    Penn-Ohio Penn-Ohio Feb 10, 2012 9:53 AM in response to montster
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    Feb 10, 2012 9:53 AM in response to montster

    montster wrote:

     

    AWESOME PO!!!!  Junk yard DAWWWWWWWG to be sure!  We both have the exact same setup now - even monitor (minus the TB drives though).  Great stuff!

     

    BUT be wary of 10.0.3 IT IS >>>>>>NOT<<<<<<< a step UP from 10.0.2 regardless of some that insist on everything Apple does being justified somehow or another. FORGET about multi cam for now......Thats the latest from la la land buddy!

    what do you mean forget 10.0.3?  multicam is everything i do.  i hardly do any single cam at all.  does this mean i would be without multicam?  if that's a "yes" then i have to cancel everything because we do about 1-3 videos a week here (sometimes over 150 a year) and at least 80% of what we do is 2, 3, or 4 cameras AND i am selling my macpro and other macbook pro.  so, if there is a prob with multicam and the macbook pro 2.5 i must knows.  maybe i should get the 2.4 instead if it is a 2.5 thing?

  • by montster,

    montster montster Feb 10, 2012 10:04 AM in response to Penn-Ohio
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    Feb 10, 2012 10:04 AM in response to Penn-Ohio

    There is no "problem" with a 2.5 , 2.4 or whatever. I recommend the 2.5 for the extra cache and speed and THAT is ONE issue in itself. Not related to multicam or not.

     

    If you need multicam - you should use 10.0.3. It is one of the best ideas for multicam editing I have ever seen actually. Thats it on that front.

     

    Regarding SPEED and PERFORMANCE between 10.0.2 and 10.0.3 just be aware, that 10.0.3 is SLOWER to use than the previous verion '02. Nothing to do with whether you should get this 2.5 or 2.4. That it on that front.

     

    If you have used 02 you will not get better overall  performance by using 03 no matter what the Apple notes say. BUT BUT BUT if you need multicam - go for it! But just be aware that there are "issues" with this version that offers this multicam ability.

     

    I cannot tolerate the performance difference between the two (app updates). Some think this is no big deal. I cant speak for you.

     

    But if you want the FASTEST POSSIBLE portable possibility to run FCPX at the FASTEST POSSIBLE speed - you need to get the system I recommended for you. Nothing changes on that front.

  • by Neil Whittey,

    Neil Whittey Neil Whittey Feb 10, 2012 10:38 AM in response to Penn-Ohio
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    Feb 10, 2012 10:38 AM in response to Penn-Ohio

    A BIG (repeat, BIG) issue is if you have upgraded from 10.0.2 to 10.0.3. All of your prior work may have issues with titles requiring re-rendering every time you quit and restart FCPX. That is a HUGE waste of time. And I have tried Digital Rebellion's various apps, tried manually deleting previous render files, caches, used FCPX's delete render files, tried making an edit in the project, then rendering again. Bottom line, nothing has worked. Every previous project with titles requires a complete re-rendering of any titles every time you reopen the app.

     

    Massive slowdown in workflow. Basically you cannot quit the app. Your rendering will be lost. And if Apple comes back with a sugestion to go back and rebuild every title, I think I will send them the bill!

  • by montster,

    montster montster Feb 10, 2012 10:50 AM in response to Neil Whittey
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    Feb 10, 2012 10:50 AM in response to Neil Whittey

    Brother Niel,

    No repeat necessary in this thread I hope! I've already been hacked and wacked for daring to speak the facts about this disasterous release. In fact that is why the thread title is called...DISASTEROUS

     

    Even helps to sell more tickets to the show too lol

     

    Couldnt agree more - whats most amazing is that there is no official admission anywhere as to the faults and issues that are obviously known. Where is that??? At least????  Thanks for caring

  • by Karsten Schlüter,

    Karsten Schlüter Karsten Schlüter Feb 10, 2012 10:59 AM in response to montster
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    Feb 10, 2012 10:59 AM in response to montster

    montster wrote:

    .... whats most amazing is that there is no official admission anywhere as to the faults and issues that are obviously known. Where is that??? ....

     

    Obviously not outside this thread .....

  • by montster,

    montster montster Feb 10, 2012 12:25 PM in response to Karsten Schlüter
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    Feb 10, 2012 12:25 PM in response to Karsten Schlüter

    Karsten,

    May I ask what kind of system you are running?

    Thanks.

  • by Penn-Ohio,

    Penn-Ohio Penn-Ohio Feb 10, 2012 1:03 PM in response to montster
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    Feb 10, 2012 1:03 PM in response to montster

    montster wrote:

     

    There is no "problem" with a 2.5 , 2.4 or whatever. I recommend the 2.5 for the extra cache and speed and THAT is ONE issue in itself. Not related to multicam or not.

     

    If you need multicam - you should use 10.0.3. It is one of the best ideas for multicam editing I have ever seen actually. Thats it on that front.

     

    Regarding SPEED and PERFORMANCE between 10.0.2 and 10.0.3 just be aware, that 10.0.3 is SLOWER to use than the previous verion '02. Nothing to do with whether you should get this 2.5 or 2.4. That it on that front......

    maybe there is this difference of projects started under 10.0.2 and then continued editing in 10.0.3 that are making slooooooow down issues like i seem to be reading from some of the people posting here and elsewhere ?  that is, have you tried starting a new project under 10.0.3, especially a multicam project, and see how it performs?

     

    one thing for certain it seems, maybe for now i will just use fcs3 and wait on the download of fcpx like prob 1/2 the pro market has done until we get this feeling that fcp x has earned the title of fcp x instead of as some say final cut only.  :-(

  • by montster,

    montster montster Feb 10, 2012 1:11 PM in response to Penn-Ohio
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    Feb 10, 2012 1:11 PM in response to Penn-Ohio

    Here ya go PO

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/17553948#17553948

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