Q: 10.0.3 DISASTEROUS

Thanks for clarifying that for me. I will go through your procedure ASAP.  Thanks so much for all the hard work on this!

I ordered a new ATI radeon HD 5770 card from the Apple store as it seemed to be the only one that was specifically built for a Mac.

On (yet another) side note: Suddenly within the last week my cooling fan has been engaging and it initially seemed to be bad RAM (the folks at OWC at least felt that's what it might be).  They replaced the 24G with another matched batch (3 , 8G sticks) and yet it was still running and I was NOT getting the hoped for speed increase in FCP X (the slow renders have been driving me CRAZY!).  So I took it all out and put the 7G of RAM that I had (3, 2G sticks and an original 1G stick).  While the fan has been running less (once or twice a day) it NEVER ran before and it never stops unless I do a full shutdown.  Any idea what could be causing this?

Thanks again for the great advice!  What I find frustrating with this though is the fact that I have also been unable to get Compressor 4 to properly upload a video to YouTube (it was always completely dropping the audio).  After repeated calls to Apple Care Pro support I was bumped up to the senior guy in the department.  While I had him on the phone I asked as well about the fan issue (which, again, hardly EVER ran before) and he had nothing of any value to say other than "It must be working harder".  I said that that didn't make sense to me as I thought an increase in RAM would allow the system to work MORE efficiently, not less.  He basically said "Oh Well!" and that was that. We never did get C4 resolved and now I just use the YT uploader via the Chrome browser.

Thanks for your advice though.  The RAM is still sitting on my desk since I've been dealing with all these FCP issues I haven't gotten to the post office to send it back!  I am going to try what you suggested and then re-install the RAM and see if by chance I get better results.  I should have the new card in a few days so that will be a good test as well.

Yes I have done that but it seemed to slow FCP X down (along with everthing else)!

Just completed a brief and un-scientific test with the different RAM.  I moved a title enough to cause a re-render and then timed it with a stopwatch. (ALL other programs were off and the project was otherwise fully rendered)

FCP X was NO DIFFERENT with the 24G of RAM as opposed to the 7G!  By the way, it took fully 56 seconds each time to render a phone number (using the "Energetic" title generator, title is 4:12 in length) that was laid over the "Underwater" FCP background.

Is it just me or does almost a minute to render a 4 and a half second long title clip seem like a looooonnnnggggg time?

And I wish I was excited about getting that card, but after reading that people were getting "astonishing" results with just 16G of RAM and I got bupkis with 24 leaves me more than a bit peeved, and very aprehensive at yet another expense.  I use all this techno wizardy to MAKE money, not spend it.

I have 3 drives, all sata.  Main Mac drive plus a 1.5 TB and a 2 TB drive for all the media, all internal.

Montster - It appears that I have been blocked from the latter part of this discussion since (I'm guessing) I referenced innoidiots "Sword of Damacles" (this was from a really dumb post of his some time ago).  I'm still getting e-mail updates but I can't log into them at the moment.  Apparently Big-Brother is watching me...

montster wrote:

 

After a lot of fiddling, it seems something has actually worked to eliminate the constant re-rendering after trying all the other (much appreciated) suggestions that unfortunately did not do the trick 100% (for my situation).

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I tried your method--twice--and the re-rendering problem did not go away but otherwise I can confirm some of your findings--at least for my installation of FCPX.

As I stated in an earlier post, I'm using the Ripple Training basic FCPX course and along the way several project duplications are performed so I have a few 'earlier in the training process' to test.

I started re-creating the 'next' project from a point where re-rendering did not occur on startup and this preliminary project worked fine, re-rendering only when it should.  At this point in the rebuild of the final project it contains only a few holds and some slow motion so it is not very complex. 

Something must be amiss in the converted project.  Perhaps it is a carryover from a prior version and perhaps it is a problem created by the project conversion routines in 10.0.3.  Either way, the only procedure that has worked for me to remove the re-render problem is to rebuild the timeline from a point where the re-rendering didn't occur.  That is fine for me,  I'm just getting started with FCPX and only have two projects that I'm working on and as they are both part of Ripple Training I'm only out a bit of 'hobbiest' time.  I'd not be so understanding if my livelihood depended even slightly upon FCPX.

Let's hope Apple figures out what is wrong and fixes it very soon.  I like FCPX and I'd hate to see it completely fail as a viable video editor.

Montster - just letting you know I'm in the exact same boat as you. My projects are done so it's not an emergency but any changes require re-rendering of all parts of the project with text. My projects are 15-minute videos with literally hundreds of titles, many of them animated, per project.

One thing I can add is that when 10.0.3 was launching the first time, it was "frozen" for several minutes - I probably should have been more patient but I force-quit and re-opened it. I wonder if that screwed everything up!! I'm going to clear out these projects/events and replace them with the backups (and let it do its job this time) to see if that helps at all.

Just wondering, has anybody talked to Apple on the phone about the re-rendering? We have a support contract through my work so I could but unfortunately don't have the several hours available that would take.

Unlike you, though, my performace seems to be normal - no beachballs or sluggishness here. I'm on the 3.4GHz i7 iMac w/ 16GB RAM.

I'm not able to export my project, FCPX crashes after 2 minutes !!!

And I've the same problem, it's always re-rendering everything, at each launch of FCPX.

crh24 wrote:

 

montster wrote:

 

After a lot of fiddling, it seems something has actually worked to eliminate the constant re-rendering after trying all the other (much appreciated) suggestions that unfortunately did not do the trick 100% (for my situation).

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I tried your method--twice--and the re-rendering problem did not go away but otherwise I can confirm some of your findings--at least for my installation of FCPX.

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A data point update. 

I thought it was time to clean my system.  I've had minor unexplained problems with other software recently, too.

I performed a format/clean install of OS X and performed all Apple updates including OS X 10.0.3.  I re-installed all of my day-to-day apps, which includes FCPX, Compressor 4 and Motion 5.  All app installs executed without a single error or warning.

The re-rendering problem is still there on converted projects.  I think the clean/new install pretty well eliminates my system being the source the problem.

Dude, (montster)

I'm in exaclty the same boat as you. Exactly, except I'm a videographer.

(i'm at the moment struggling to spit out a project from .2 -> .3, when I'm done with this I'll try one more project, on a cleanly installed system - I mean lean and mean OSX, FCPX, with a newly installed SSD, and only the bare minimus. If this doesn't work I'm, with a great amount of difficulty, going to cs5.5)

I chimed in on the other thread.  I am having the same problem with re-rendering.  I have a project that was made in .2 and yesterday, I added to my video.  Shut it down, and restarted, and guess what.  Some of the new material (on the old project) is re-rendering and some is not???  All of the old material re-renders.  Very frustrating