home and end keys - numbers

Where are the home and end keys when using numbers on a laptop?

MacBook Pro

Posted on Feb 3, 2012 6:48 PM

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Mar 31, 2012 9:54 PM in response to Jerry5337

Hi Jerry,


"This is how every keyboard in the world works."


Really? Then how can it be true that when you press HOME or END on the keyboard you are using, the result is "not what you expect?"


HOME and END mean whatever the programmers decide they mean. For the keyboard, it's just a pair of codes; the codes have meaning only when an application receives one and converts it to an instruction. The same keyboard, attached to a different application (including attached to a different operating system) may issue the same code, but not produce the same result. In my first experience, HOME was the beginning of the document—the top right corner of the first page in the case of a word processing document. END was, as you might expect, the END of the same document.


Regards,

Barry

Apr 6, 2012 11:43 PM in response to Barry

Well I will agree that the keyboard can be "programmed"; software runs hardware. I get it; however the keyboard was supposed to be like the electronic typewriter and a word processor. So the HOME & END keys are supposed to get your cursor to the beginning of the line not to the upper left of a page and to the lower right of a page. Also having the HOME & END keys act like I described allows someone that is filling in forms either in a web application or a database or even in an Excel spreadsheet to be able to press HOME or END to get to beginning of the form. Well I just installed Microsoft Office 2010 on my Mac and guess what Microsoft re-mapped the keyboard to use HOME & END like they are supposed to; only for the Office applications only. Oh well; I guess when I get more involved with the Mac OS I will be able to make changes to the keyboard control files.


Jerry

Apr 7, 2012 6:30 AM in response to Jerry5337

The keyboard's behavior is not defined by your assumptions or by M…oSoft choices.

It's defined by Apple's engineers.

Don't assume, read what is carefully written in Numbers Shortcuts which every user may download thru Numbers Help menu.

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Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) samedi 7 avril 2012

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Apr 7, 2012 9:18 PM in response to KOENIG Yvan

Well I respectfully disagree. Engineers are not user's and do not always build applications, OS, or other things to the user's preference. I have been using computers for many years and even my old Commodore 64 computer software that did word processing and other applications that did input from the keyboard used the HOME & END keys in the manner that I have described.

Apr 8, 2012 12:56 AM in response to Jerry5337

For years I worked with AppleWorks which used the shortcuts which you described.

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When I received iWork for the first time, it was iWork '06, I didn't assume that everything will remain as I was acustomed to work with. I looked at the available resources.


Some engineers apply, like sheeps, the current practices.

Some other, like Apple ones, use their brains and document their choices.


Remember : Apple = Think different


I wasted a lot of time discussing the use of the TAB key in iWork applications, so I will not do that one more time.

I described the way the iWork applications are supposed to behave.


If you want to stick to your old habits, you will have to use your old systems/applications because, as there is no menu item for

go to beginning of line, go to end of line, go to beginning of document, go to end of document

you can't edit the dedicated shortcuts.


For me, thread closed.


Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) dimanche 8 avril 2012

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

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