12 Replies Latest reply: Feb 9, 2012 11:51 AM by chev2303
chev2303 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

I'm running a mid 2010 13 inch MacBook Pro. Have been using Snow Leopard until about 2 weeks ago, which really was excellent. However, I wanted to use the updated xcode, and needed to upgrade to Lion to do so. I had read a little into Lion and was quite reluctant to upgrade due to the fact that Snow Leopard was so quick and the stuff I'd read about Lion didn't paint it in a very good light. Anyway, I upgraded and wish I hadn't bothered!

 

The machine is now very slow, this I can deal with as I work all day with Win XP PC's. The one problem that I really would like to solve is that when I open Command and Conquer zero hour the mouse never appears. I've been speaking to Aspyr, the people who converted the game for Mac, and nothing they have suggested has worked. I've also partition my drive, done a fresh installation of Snow Leopard and installed C&C on there but have the same issue.

 

Any advise would be gratefully appreciated.


MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.2)
  • chev2303 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Just wasted an hour of my life reading that......

     

    I can't go back to the lovely Snow Leopard because Xcode 4.2.1 won't work on it.

  • sig Level 8 Level 8 (35,780 points)

    Then I wasted my time reading your post. What is it you want?

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (26,900 points)

    Run activity monitor and see if there is a rouge process taking all of your CPU. If so, you've found the problem. If there is nothing unusual there, find one of Linc Davis's posts for debugging tips and post the results. That will list whatever incompatible software is causing your problem.

  • dwb Level 7 Level 7 (21,640 points)

    If you have at least 4GB of RAM and your hard drive isn't more than 85-95% full Lion shouldn't be any slower than Snow Leopard. I have it installed on numerous machines I use from the oldest basic model it will run on up through a new 2011 computer and none of them run noticeably slower than they did with Snow Leopard. (I threw in the weasel word noticeably because I know some troll might throw out benchmark tests showing Lion has lower scores than Snow Leopard. But the important point is that I notice no difference when I use the machines.)

     

    However, I have to admit that one of my first Snow Leopard to Lion upgrades was less than successful and I wound up performing a clean install and migrating back from a clone. Besides etresoft's suggestion you should also look for programs and plug-ins that need to be updated.

     

    And finally, you might consider keeping Snow Leopard around on an external drive - or put Lion on the external drive - so you can have access to both.

  • chev2303 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Sig

     

    Apologies for my last comment, it wasn't aimed at you, just me thinking aloud. What I want is for Lion to run like Snow Leopard did and for it to run C&C correctly.

     

    etresoft

     

    No rogue processes, CPU 90% idle right now. 1.92GB ram free & 71GB free disk space. Finder just took about 20 seconds to open. It didn't take that long when I was using snow leopard.

     

    dwb

     

    You're right about noticing the speed difference. To me, Lion compares to using a windows machine, whereas Snow leopard was much faster. I have looked into my options, but am still deciding whether to keep Lion as my day to day OS. Decisions, decisions........

     

    Right now what I would settle for is a fix for C&C and its never appearing mouse pointer.

     

    All opinions/advice welcome

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (26,900 points)

    Try Linc's diagnostic test from this post and report the results here.

  • chev2303 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Last login: Sun Feb  5 10:11:35 on console

    Christopher-Everss-MacBook-Pro:~ Chris$ kextstat -kl | awk '!/com\.apple/ {print $6 $7}'

    Christopher-Everss-MacBook-Pro:~ Chris$ sudo launchctl list | sed 1d | awk '!/0x|com\.apple/ {print $3}'

     

     

    WARNING: Improper use of the sudo command could lead to data loss

    or the deletion of important system files. Please double-check your

    typing when using sudo. Type "man sudo" for more information.

     

     

    To proceed, enter your password, or type Ctrl-C to abort.

     

     

    Password:

    org.x.privileged_startx

    org.postfix.master

    org.ntp.ntpd

    org.cups.cupsd

    com.vix.cron

    com.trusteer.rooks.rooksd

    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper

    com.logmein.logmeinserver

    com.flipvideo.FlipShareServer.launchd

    Christopher-Everss-MacBook-Pro:~ Chris$ launchctl list | sed 1d | awk '!/0x|com\.apple/ {print $3}'

    org.x.startx

    org.openbsd.ssh-agent

    com.trusteer.rapport.rapportd

    com.logmein.logmeinguiagent

    com.logmein.logmeingui

    com.hp.help.tocgenerator

    com.flipvideo.FlipShareAutoRun

    Christopher-Everss-MacBook-Pro:~ Chris$ ls -1A /e*/mach* {,/}L*/{Ad,Compon,Ex,Fram,In,Keyb,La,Mail/Bu,P*P,Priv,Qu,Scripti,Servi,Spo,Sta} * L*/Fonts 2> /dev/null

    /Library/Components:

     

     

    /Library/Extensions:

     

     

    /Library/Frameworks:

    AEProfiling.framework

    AERegistration.framework

    AudioMixEngine.framework

    NyxAudioAnalysis.framework

    PluginManager.framework

    TSLicense.framework

    iLifeFaceRecognition.framework

    iLifeKit.framework

    iLifePageLayout.framework

    iLifeSQLAccess.framework

    iLifeSlideshow.framework

     

     

    /Library/Input Methods:

     

     

    /Library/Internet Plug-Ins:

    Flash Player.plugin

    Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin

    Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.webplugin

    JavaAppletPlugin.plugin

    LogMeIn.plugin

    LogMeInSafari32.plugin

    LogMeInSafari64.plugin

    Quartz Composer.webplugin

    QuickTime Plugin.plugin

    SharePointBrowserPlugin.plugin

    SharePointWebKitPlugin.webplugin

    Silverlight.plugin

    flashplayer.xpt

    iPhotoPhotocast.plugin

    nsIQTScriptablePlugin.xpt

     

     

    /Library/Keyboard Layouts:

     

     

    /Library/LaunchAgents:

    com.flipvideo.FlipShare.AutoRun.plist

    com.hp.help.tocgenerator.plist

    com.logmein.logmeingui.plist

    com.logmein.logmeinguiagent.plist

    com.trusteer.rapport.rapportd.plist

     

     

    /Library/LaunchDaemons:

    com.apple.remotepairtool.plist

    com.flipvideo.FlipShareServer.launchd.plist

    com.logmein.logmeinserver.plist

    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist

    com.trusteer.rooks.rooksd.plist

     

     

    /Library/PreferencePanes:

    Flash Player.prefPane

    Flip4Mac WMV.prefPane

    RapportPreferences.prefPane

     

     

    /Library/PrivilegedHelperTools:

    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper

     

     

    /Library/QuickLook:

    GBQLGenerator.qlgenerator

    iWork.qlgenerator

     

     

    /Library/QuickTime:

    AppleIntermediateCodec.component

    AppleMPEG2Codec.component

    Flip4Mac WMV Advanced.component

    Flip4Mac WMV Export.component

    Flip4Mac WMV Import.component

    QTMpeg4Codec.component

     

     

    /Library/ScriptingAdditions:

     

     

    /Library/Spotlight:

    GBSpotlightImporter.mdimporter

    LogicPro.mdimporter

    Microsoft Office.mdimporter

    iWork.mdimporter

     

     

    /Library/StartupItems:

    HP Trap Monitor

     

     

    /etc/mach_init.d:

     

     

    /etc/mach_init_per_login_session.d:

     

     

    /etc/mach_init_per_user.d:

     

     

    Library/Address Book Plug-Ins:

     

     

    Library/Fonts:

     

     

    Library/Input Methods:

    .localized

     

     

    Library/Internet Plug-Ins:

    ContentManager.plugin

    RocketEngine.plugin

    UploadManager.plugin

     

     

    Library/Keyboard Layouts:

     

     

    Library/LaunchAgents:

    com.apple.CSConfigDotMacCert-user@me.com-SharedServices.Agent.plist

    com.apple.MobileMeSyncClientAgent.plist

    com.apple.SafariBookmarksSyncer.plist

     

     

    Library/PreferencePanes:

    Christopher-Everss-MacBook-Pro:~ Chris$ osascript -e 'tell application "System Events" to get the name of every login item'

     

     

    iTunesHelper

    Christopher-Everss-MacBook-Pro:~ Chris$

    Christopher-Everss-MacBook-Pro:~ Chris$

  • chev2303 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Ok, so I'll hold my hands up, it seems I may have picked the wrong file system......

     

    So I have a couple of questions. Firstly, when I re-install Snow Leopard which file system should I use? Bear in mind that I'm only installing Snow Leopard again so the I can run my Lion upgrade,

     

    Secondly, I now only have a backup taken in Lion. Can some please advise the best way to restore this data? Do I restore it to the new Snow Leopard install that I'm about to do, or do I setup Snow Leopard as a new user, run the Lion upgrade and then restore my backup?

  • chev2303 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    So I lied.... I actually have three questions.

     

    Once I've installed Snow Leopard, should I run all the updates before running the Lion upgrade?

  • etresoft Level 7 Level 7 (26,900 points)

     

    chev2303 wrote:

     

    Ok, so I'll hold my hands up, it seems I may have picked the wrong file system......

     

     

     

    I don't quite understand. Did you install using a case sensitive file system or something?

     

    The only suspicious items you have are trusteer, flipshare, and HP software. Uninstall those and see if you notice any difference. Then, reinstall the lastest versions of everything except trusteer. Then you should be fine.

     

    So I have a couple of questions. Firstly, when I re-install Snow Leopard which file system should I use?

     

     

     

    The default. HFS+ (journaled). It might be called "MacOS X Extended (journaled)"

     

    Secondly, I now only have a backup taken in Lion. Can some please advise the best way to restore this data? Do I restore it to the new Snow Leopard install that I'm about to do, or do I setup Snow Leopard as a new user, run the Lion upgrade and then restore my backup?

     

     

    Upgrade all the way to Lion and then restore. You don't need to run any Snow Leopard updates. Technically, you don't even have to install Snow Leopard again. You can boot into the recovery partition by holding down "R" while booting, erase your startup volume and reinstall Lion directly to it.

  • chev2303 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Sorted now

     

    Well kind of.... I'd chosen a case sensitive file system. Ran the recovery, erased my disk and re-installed Lion. On the correct file system. Only slight issue is that when I restored from a time machine backup it didn't restore music or pictures. Luckily I have the audio & jpeg files so I can just re-import them.

     

    Lesson learned: RTFM