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gd0 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

First issue: I am stuck with this system, cannot afford any upgrades.

 

Second issue is just a request for information.

 

The now-five-years-old internal HD started to show signs of instability (struggled with backups via SuperDuper etc). So I assigned Startup Disk to one of three external HDs (two 500G, one 160G (I am unable to edit my gear profile here for some reason)).

 

First time I'd done this, and everything appears to work fine.

 

I noticed that I needed to replace the Aliases in the Dock, so that apps would launch from the Startup Disk and all work going forward gets done here. I'm content to never access the internal HD again (it's old and too small at its max 160G size).

 

I further noticed that the Finder and Dashboard aliases are not replaceable as I did the above alias swaps. Is the fact that I've changed the Startup Disk enough to ensure that the Finder is operating on the new Startup and not the old, dying internal HD? Or am I misunderstanding the procedure to begin with?

 

Just want to completely bypass the internal without disconnecting it outright. Just trying to confirm if I am already doing that.

 

Am I missing anything basic?

 

Thanx in advance.


Power Mac G4 PPC, Mac OS X (10.4.11), 667 MHz / 160G int / 160G ext / 1.5G RAM / DSL
  • Niel Level 10 Level 10 (279,100 points)

    Yes, it is.

     

    (63875)

  • gd0 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks, Niel

     

    I was almost ready to tag this one closed (is that still possible? this place looks different than it used to).

     

    But then I noticed other suspicious behavior:

     

    Double-clicking an existing file sometimes results in launching the app from a different place than my newly-chosen Startup Disk, as evidenced by a duplicate alias appearing in the Dock.

     

    I thought maybe the history of a file might prompt opening from its HD of origin, but some files are newly-downloaded from Safari or Mail. The apps that appear removed from the Startup Dock include Preview, Photoshop, Acrobat for the time being.

     

    Is this even a concern? The aging, ailing former Startup Disk (the internal HD) has long since been successfully backed up (via SuperDuper) to 3 external HDs, one of which is now the new Startup Disk.

     

    Thx.

  • gd0 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Bump.

     

    Again, I don't  know if it's anything to be concerned about, but if it should be cleaned up, I'd be interested in doing so.

     

    Ran another test. Opened a new document in TextEdit, launched from the Startup Disk, saved it to the desktop, quit TextEdit, double-clicked the file, and TextEdit launched from the internal HD.

     

    Additionally, saving a similar file to the Startup Disk produces the same result.

     

    Trying to bypass old and failing internal HD entirely, but maybe that's not possible?

     

    Or important?

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (120,410 points)

    You can't really close a topic, best you can do is mark somebody's answer Correct Answer or Helpful.

     

    On the Disk you're booting from, Right click or Control+click on say Text Edit in the Dock, choose Reveal in Finder... is the path to the old drive?

     

    If so open Applications on the new boot drive & drag to the Dock, drag other TE off the Dock.

     

    With the new drive set as Startup Disk...

     

    Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions...

     

    Reset Launch Services...

     

    http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/resetlaunchservices.html#Anchor-Reset-47857

     

    Reboot.

     

    PS. Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive.

  • gd0 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hey BDAqua, we meet again; you've helped me with a couple issues over the past couple years. Still limping along with an 11-yr old G4 (actually it's never worked better than it does now).

     

    I did do the Reveal path check, but I had already replaced the Dock aliases.

     

    I generally understand the directive, but a couple detail questions (Tiger 10.4.11):

     

    "Trash the following two files in the Macintosh HD > Library > Caches folder:

    • com.apple.LaunchServices-0140.csstore
    • com.apple.LaunchServices-014nnn.csstore

    where nnn is the uid (User ID) number, as listed in the NetInfo database, of the affected account."

     

    Does that mean be sure to trash TWO items including whatever the UID is? Mine's not nnn. Should I trash the second UID as well?

     

    Will my lack of a password (I just hit Return when prompted during SuperDuper backups) create a stall or some other problem while doing this?

     

    Thanx.

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (120,410 points)

    Yes, I remember helping you & as I recall it was a joy!

    Does that mean be sure to trash TWO items including whatever the UID is? Mine's not nnn. Should I trash the second UID as well?

    Won't hurt to trash them all, they'll get rebuilt.

    Will my lack of a password (I just hit Return when prompted during SuperDuper backups) create a stall or some other problem while doing this?

    Hmmm, if I read that correctly, you'll need n admin Password to get full functioning I think, oterwise I believe only certain user things will get copied.

  • gd0 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    OK. I'll be a while teaching myself how to setup a user account and find a way to avoid having to type in a password with every bootup. I know, this is Day One stuff I just never learned. Never had to; I work at home, no other users.

     

    I'll report back in when everything's accomplished.

     

    Or imploded.

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (120,410 points)

    I'll be a while teaching myself how to setup a user account and find a way to avoid having to type in a password with every bootup.

    The login part can be made automatic, in System Preferences>Accounts, RBG...

    SysPrefsLoginOptions.jpg

  • gd0 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hey BDA

     

    So... I've established an Admin User Account, with password, automatic log-in... all that seems to work.

     

    I did the Safe Boot, Repair Permissions, and then the Reset Launch Services. Rebooted (did a Shut Down, wait, Boot as opposed to Restart), and after a bit of a stall it showed me a Desktop from about 1 week ago, but the changes made in Reset Launch Services seemed to have been installed.

     

    This 1-week-ago thing happened just recently prior to my starting this thread, and was resolved by simply rebooting.

     

    So I did the same thing just now, and after yet another stall, my desktop and Projects all look current again. But the original problem (inability to entirely bypass the old internal HD) returned.

     

    The other weird thing that happened in the "time-warp" incident is that two new folders showed up in the Dock. One was named "Portugu."-something, I forget the other. They had very little in them, named something like "String"-something. They're not there now. This also occurred in the abovementioned incident when the desktop suddenly looked 1 week old.

     

    There aren't any paying Projects to save, but I did make quite few edits in Mail and Address Book that I'd prefer save and/or not to do over again. Also Bookmarks in Safari.

     

    I did not do this try-it-again step:

    6.

    Verify that the problem is solved. If not:

    1. Trash the com.apple.LaunchServices.plist file in the Home > Library > Preferences folder of the affected account. See Note [3].
    2. Repeat steps 1-5.

    And would prefer to keep everything I've done before losing them again.

     

    It "feels" like maybe since I reassigned the Startup Disk, I've performed some tasks from the new Startup Disk and also from the old internal HD, and maybe the Reset has "confused" one or the other.

     

    Should I possibly be performing the Reset Launch Services on the internal HD as well as the new Startup Disk?

     

    Thanx.

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (120,410 points)

    Should I possibly be performing the Reset Launch Services on the internal HD as well as the new Startup Disk?

    Shouldn't be needed unless you boot from that drive.

  • gd0 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So should I try the try-it-again step?

     

    In one instance the original problem was solved, but i got a time-warp desktop.

     

    In another instance, I got a current desktop, but the original issue resurfaced.

     

    I'd really like to save my current work and e-mails.

     

    thx

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (120,410 points)

    Sounds like we have 2 different accounts with the same name!?

     

    See if this might apply...

     

    Mac OS X 10.3, 10.4 or later: Return to default desktop, apparent "loss" of home directory...

     

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107854

  • gd0 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Two accounts have similar but different names. The 2nd account (created at your suggestion for a prior issue) has never been touched or accessed.

     

    The main account, now that I look at it in System Preferences, has the same name and short name, but it seems they always have for years.

     

    Here is where I show my ignorance.

     

    I'm not perfectly clear on what the Finder or Home Directory are.

     

    I read that article three times, and I'm not sure what to look for.

     

    "Before you assume that the home directory contents were actually lost, check the /Users folder to see if the missing home directory is present and simply renamed.


    If you determine that the home directory is present but renamed, follow these steps:

    1. In the Finder, go to the /Users folder.
    2. Locate the new home directory, which bears the users' short name.
    3. Add "_new" to the new home directory's name.
    4. Rename the old home directory to the user's correct short name.
    5. Log out and back in with the affected user account."

    Does "Finder > /Users folder" mean the same as Startup Disk > Users? If so -- with the correct current desktop showing -- the two account names are current and what they've always been. I did not change account names when I reassigned the Startup Disk (and that was roughly a week ago too, fwiw).

     

    The current contents are present now, even if they've "disappeared" a couple times, and I sort of understand the concern and focus of the article. But I don't know how to assess it.

     

    I don't know what the Home Directory is or where to find it, or what to look for once I'm there.

     

    The more basic it is the less I understand it.

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (120,410 points)

    The main account, now that I look at it in System Preferences, has the same name and short name, but it seems they always have for years.

    Are there 2 identical ones there???

     

    Home folder is the whole User's folder you're logged in as, commonly denotted as ~. in Unix.

     

    In Finder's Menu, select Go menu>Go to Folder, and go to "/volumes". (no quotes)

     

    That'd show all your mounted Drives.

     

    In Finder's Menu, select Go menu>Go to Folder, and go to "/Users". (no quotes)

     

    Should display all Users folders, withe currently logged in User shoeing a House icon.

     

    The more basic it is the less I understand it.

    Great, there's nothing about OSX that is basic!

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