Q: iPhone 3gs exploding expanding battery

This is not true at all. Show me data. I have a regular laptop PC machine with a Li-Ion battery. The OS alerted me to replace the battery. A year ago! it has not expanded, exploded or anything of the sort.

My opinion is you are making generalizations. You have posted here hyperlinks to articles derogatory to other manufacturers of cell phones. How come your post hasnt been removed? It did violate the conditions of use. But more importantly, those batteries that failed from those other brand names are removable, so they didnt destroy the phones like the 3GS battery and 4 batteries do.

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Lawrence Finch NYC Area

superjaz1 wrote:

 

Just to note as I didn't mention it in my previous post, my wife stopped using the phone for a few months and it was sat in a drawer. Then about a week ago she decided to use it again and charged it up. The battery didn't start expanding till a few days later after charging however.

That is significant. Leaving it unused that long without charging it will allow the battery to drain completely. Complete discharge is a death warrant for Lithium chemistry batteries, as it is for most other secondary batteries. (If you did the same with your car battery you would get the same results.) When the phone shuts off due to low battery under normal use there is still plenty of charge left in the battery; it shuts off early to protect the battery from total discharge. But leaving it uncharged after it shuts off will eventually drain it completely, as a few functions of the phone continue to operate (primarily maintaining RAM memory).

This is not true at all. Show me data. I have a regular laptop PC machine with a Li-Ion battery. The OS alerted me to replace the battery. A year ago! it has not expanded, exploded or anything of the sort.

My opinion is you are making generalizations. You have posted here hyperlinks to articles derogatory to other manufacturers of cell phones. How come your post hasnt been removed? It did violate the conditions of use. But more importantly, those batteries that failed from those other brand names are removable, so they didnt destroy the phones like the 3GS battery and 4 batteries do.

Moderator: How come these hyperlinks are allowed?

Lawrence Finch NYC Area

CMC55 wrote:

 

You missed the point.

You are missing the point. It is a failure mode of ALL Lithium batteries, whether they are in iPhones, Galaxy phones, Windows phones, Nokias, laptops, Tesla cars or space ships. Apple's batteries if anything are safer than most others, as none of them have ever started a house fire or injured anyone, like these:

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/samsung- smartphone-battery-catches-on-fire-causes-second-degree-burns-1130104

http://www.emirates247.com/business/technology/samsung-galaxy-s4-catches-fire-wh ile-charging-2013-07-09-1.513659

http://osaseye.blogspot.com/2013/07/samsung-phone-battery-catches-fire-in.html#. Us9M0GRDuA0

http://www.digitaltree.org/samsung-galaxy-s3-fire-incident/

http://gsminsider.com/2013/07/samsung-galaxy-s4-exploded-hong-kong/

CMC55 wrote:

 

But more importantly, those batteries that failed from those other brand names are removable, so they didnt destroy the phones like the 3GS battery and 4 batteries do.

I guess you didn't read them. The DID destroy the phones, and, in one case a home. And they caused serious injury to several people who had the phones that they destroyed in their pockets.

I did see the articles and to me they looked like the Enquirer or any other tabloid would have made better, more credible sources than the ones you chose.

Again, you miss the points that I made, it has nothing to do with Samsung's batteries or Boeing's Li-Ion batteries. I dont care about those, I care about the batteries that are inside my Apple devices.

You Sir have no valid opinion on this matter, you are not an expert on Li-Ion batteries and more importantly, this has not happened to you, so how can you tell me or these people how to feel about this?

CMC55 wrote:

Moderator: How come these hyperlinks are allowed?

Because you pasted them.

You Sir have no valid opinion on this matter,

An opinion cannot be "invalid".

It is what it is.

Lawrence Finch wrote:

 

Complete discharge is a death warrant for Lithium chemistry batteries, as it is for most other secondary batteries. (If you did the same with your car battery you would get the same results.)

Last time I looked I didn't have a Li-on battery in my car, you can't compare a car battery with a mobile phone battery

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CMC55 wrote:

 

You Sir may be so smart to know the nuances of Li-Ion batteries but i guarantee you the average consumer doesnt. And guess who has bought the majority of the quarter of a billion iPhones that have been sold? yes plain average uninformed consumers like me. Not experts like you Sir.

Agreed. This is not common knowledge and one should not assume that "Joe Public" and non-technical users know how to care for their batteries. It should be clearly stated in the manual something to the respect of: "Warning: Complete discharge of battery may lead to battery failure". And if I should be aware of how many times I have charged the battery before it needs replacing I need a way of finding this out. It's frustrating that I can't get a battery app to tell me how many times I've charged my iPhone and iPad because Apple doesn't allow access to this kind of data. I wonder why? What's the big deal?  I know a battery isn't going to last forever. If I need to get it replaced I'm more than happy to spend the £55 to get it replaced, not wait for it to self destruct and destroy my device. I've had my iPad 3 almost 2 years now and the battery isn't what it used to be. Either this is due to iOS7 or my battery is slowly failing. It might even destroy my £400 iPad any second. But how would I know? Sadly I don't have access to that kind of information to find out. My crappy £35 Android e-reader tells me more information about the battery than my Apple devices.

My iPhone 3GS bought in june 2010 decided to inflate and explode the screen yesterday, I heard that this happens if you let it often on a docking station or charging.

I bought a Nexus 5 instead and I now live in 2014:)

Well done. You now have three years or so before you wonder if the battery will suffer the same fate at a similar age.

tonefox wrote:

 

Well done. You now have three years or so before you wonder if the battery will suffer the same fate at a similar age.

Hopefully his Nexus will have a battery indicator or at the very least, clear documentation that will tell him when to replace the battery so that he won't have to "wonder" anything.

CMC55 wrote:
Hopefully his Nexus will have a battery indicator or at the very least, clear documentation that will tell him when to replace the battery so that he won't have to "wonder" anything.

Are there any devices that have this?

new to apple stuff and been avoiding it at all costs, but was persuaded to have this Iphone recently, wish i hadnt bothered......oh well back to Samsung

Had same problem with an old iPhone 3G, where the back started cracking a few months ago. Found out that it was the expanding battery issue. It has become much worse over the last week, and the crack on the back is getting larger. Went to the Apple store today, and was told I could trade it in for a "new" iPhone 3G for $150, but since this is the old iPhone, I would be limited to iOS 6.something, and not able to update to the 7.something iOS. I guess I'm S.O.L. then. I agree that such a blatant manufacturing defect should be covered by the company, but I guess keeping customers happy is not a priority (I'm still irritated from being charged $39 for the 30 pin to lightning connectors, when it is obvious that the cost for manufacturing it is less than $1. I'm ready to switch to Samsung. This is starting to look a lot like the way Palm devices treated their customers before they sank.

Oh, and one more thing... I have always kept all my iPhones on a cradle and always had them charged that way. I have had iPhone 3G, 4G, and 5, and only the iPhone 3G had this issue. I don't think it is related to using a charging cradle.